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sonerohi

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Climate temperature?
« on: December 25, 2008, 01:25:49 pm »

Is freezing the only dangerous climate for your dwarves to live in? I've got the embark site of my dreams (chasm and hfs right next to each other on the map center) but it is entirely scorching. Will my only problem exist with water evaporation and grassfires, or can my dwarves get burnt up from being outside too long?
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Re: Climate temperature?
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2008, 02:20:13 pm »

Freezing and scorching won't have any effect on your dwarves.
Your darves could in theory sleep naked on a freezing glacier without taking any damage other than an unhappy thought.

Freezing will transform any water that goes outside (or is it outdoors?) to ice, which will function like a normal wall.

When it's warm enough outside water from pools will evaporate.
But your dwarves are safe.
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Re: Climate temperature?
« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2008, 02:24:33 pm »

they used to burn in some scorching areas, but that might have been changed a few versions ago.  im not sure, but if they do burn its likely not to happen quickly.  you should be safe enough if you keep them indoors and underground.

freezing definitly used to damage dwarfs, and they would start getting injuries from the toes upwards unless they came from a civ that was started in a freezing area and they were generated with lots of layers of clothes.  if this has changed as Danarca has suggested, then i'm a little dissapointed.
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Re: Climate temperature?
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2008, 03:00:32 pm »

Oh?
Well, I've been trying to settle on glaciers for a bit and recieved no damage whatsoever, and I haven't turned temperatures off =/

I suppose I might be wrong then I guess, anyone 100% sure?
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Re: Climate temperature?
« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2008, 06:32:27 pm »

I think what's happening there is that the glacier is cold enough to be considered a glacier but not cold enough to be dangerous to dwarves (well, no more so than a glacier ever is). Weather temperature definitely has an impact beyond water physics (indeed the way water acts is based on the specific temperature), and it is possible to Gen dangerously high or low temperatures- even to the extent where metals will burst into boiling clouds from being left outside. I don't know how likely they are if you aren't trying for them, though. The best way to find out is to try playing the area and see what happens... trying to get your dwarves inside before Summer, of course.
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Re: Climate temperature?
« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2008, 08:33:28 pm »

I've found that the spontaneous freezing/exploding of objects tends to happen most when you goof off with the custom world generation. So if you're going for a standard-type world, without mucking up the temperature settings, you shouldn't need to worry about it doing that.
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Re: Climate temperature?
« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2008, 09:39:51 pm »

Though, of course, you should never underestimate the Random Number God. The thing can be vicious.
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Re: Climate temperature?
« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2008, 09:58:03 pm »

I've read of some worlds where some spots are so cold dwarves freezes to death from it in a snap and so hot things burns up, even the dwarves. As far as I understand, most of them were result of messing with temperature for worldgen parameter into extreme range and very very rarely happens in default generation, or not at all.
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Re: Climate temperature?
« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2008, 10:15:27 pm »

Maybe you are talking about Deathly Cold areas?

And scorching dries up water pretty fast, make sure to make a river or brook.
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Re: Climate temperature?
« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2008, 11:08:10 pm »

Oh gods, temperature can kill you. It can kill you in so many ways its ridiculous.
Your dwarves can burst into fire while they try to save their kegs of rum even as they explode, they can freeze in seconds, the 1/7 water around their feet can freeze insta-killing them, temperature fluctuations around waterfalls can cause ice dams to form that flood the entire map, it can be boiling on one side of the map and freezing on the other.

But dwarves are tough: they can survive crap us dirty humies never could. Just not the sun being two feet directly overhead.
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Re: Climate temperature?
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2008, 01:43:32 pm »

it can be boiling on one side of the map and freezing on the other.
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Re: Climate temperature?
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2008, 02:03:33 pm »

There was a seed to a map where you could go outside during the winter but during late spring/summer the entire landscape burst into flames and leather started melting

Good times  :P
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Re: Climate temperature?
« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2008, 02:09:20 pm »

Freezing temperatures can actually kill your dwarves if they are not properly covered.  I have seen this happen before.  Dwarves stay outside too long with insufficient clothing, and get full body bruises.  The head and neck bruises are permanent.  Eventually, they will freeze to death, likely while they are sleeping in their own room.  The rooms this happened in were in fact underground, where there is a fixed room temperature, no matter what exterior temperatures there are.
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