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Religion Probs
« on: August 22, 2008, 08:58:54 am »

I'm trying to make a few new civilizations races out of the existing ___men in the game (starting with ratmen as ruins-dwelling swamp lovers who live to about 80), but I can't get them to worship anything.  I used the religion tokens on the Dwarfwiki, and tried a few different combos, as well as "worship_any_appropriate_power" and "pantheon", but they remain godless heathens. 
This is the Ratmen as they exist now:

[ENTITY:WETLAND]
   [CIV_CONTROLLABLE]
   [CREATURE:RATMAN]
   [trANSLATION:KOBOLD]
   [DIGGER:ITEM_WEAPON_PICK]
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_WHIP]
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_DAGGER_LARGE]
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SCOURGE]
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_BLOWGUN]
      [AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_BLOWDARTS]
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_SHORT]
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SPEAR]
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_PIKE]
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_CROSSBOW]
      [AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_BOLTS]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_LEATHER:COMMON]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_COAT:COMMON]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_SHIRT:COMMON]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_CLOAK:COMMON]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_TUNIC:COMMON]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_TOGA:UNCOMMON]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_VEST:COMMON]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_DRESS:COMMON]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_ROBE:COMMON]
   [HELM:ITEM_HELM_HELM:COMMON]
   [HELM:ITEM_HELM_CAP:COMMON]
   [HELM:ITEM_HELM_HOOD:COMMON]
   [GLOVES:ITEM_GLOVES_GLOVES:COMMON]
   [PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_PANTS:COMMON]
   [PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_GREAVES:COMMON]
   [PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_LEGGINGS:COMMON]
   [SHIELD:ITEM_SHIELD_SHIELD]
   [SHIELD:ITEM_SHIELD_BUCKLER]
   [SIEGEAMMO:ITEM_SIEGEAMMO_BALLISTA]
   [trAPCOMP:ITEM_TRAPCOMP_GIANTAXEBLADE]
   [trAPCOMP:ITEM_TRAPCOMP_ENORMOUSCORKSCREW]
   [trAPCOMP:ITEM_TRAPCOMP_SPIKEDBALL]
   [trAPCOMP:ITEM_TRAPCOMP_LARGESERRATEDDISC]
   [trAPCOMP:ITEM_TRAPCOMP_MENACINGSPIKE]
   [TOY:ITEM_TOY_PUZZLEBOX]
   [TOY:ITEM_TOY_DWARF_DOLL]
   [TOY:ITEM_TOY_HAMMER]
   [TOY:ITEM_TOY_TOY_SWORD]
   [TOY:ITEM_TOY_SKULL_RATTLE]
   [INSTRUMENT:ITEM_INSTRUMENT_BELLS]
   [INSTRUMENT:ITEM_INSTRUMENT_TRUMPET]
   [INSTRUMENT:ITEM_INSTRUMENT_WAR_PIPE]
   [INSTRUMENT:ITEM_INSTRUMENT_DRUM]
   [INSTRUMENT:ITEM_INSTRUMENT_PICCOLO]
   [CLOTHING]
   [SUBTERRANEAN_CLOTHING]
   [CURRENCY_BY_YEAR]
   [CURRENCY:COPPER:1]
   [CURRENCY:SILVER:15]
   [CURRENCY:GOLD:35]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:WAR:NAME_WAR]
   [SUBSELECT_SYMBOL:WAR:VIOLENT]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:BATTLE:NAME_BATTLE]
   [SUBSELECT_SYMBOL:BATTLE:UGLY]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:SIEGE:NAME_SIEGE]
   [SUBSELECT_SYMBOL:SIEGE:DEATH]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:ROAD:NAME_ROAD]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:TUNNEL:NAME_TUNNEL]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:BRIDGE:NAME_BRIDGE]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:WALL:NAME_WALL]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:REMAINING:MYSTERY]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:REMAINING:MAGIC]
   [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:DOMESTIC]
   [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:HOLY]
   [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:PEACE]
   [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:NEW]
   [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:FLOWERY]
   [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:MYTHIC]
   [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:ARTIFICE]
   [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:ROMANTIC]
   [METAL_PREF]
   [GEM_PREF]
   [STONE_PREF]
   [INDOOR_FARMING]
   [USE_EVIL_ANIMALS]
   [USE_ANIMAL_PRODUCTS]
   [COMMON_DOMESTIC_PACK]
   [COMMON_DOMESTIC_PULL]
   [COMMON_DOMESTIC_MOUNT]
   [COMMON_DOMESTIC_PET]
   [USE_MISC_PROCESSED_WOOD_PRODUCTS]
   [EQUIPMENT_IMPROVEMENTS]
   [ART_IMAGE_ELEMENT_MODIFIER:WAR:64]
   [ART_IMAGE_ELEMENT_MODIFIER:DEATH:64]
   [ITEM_IMPROVEMENT_MODIFIER:RINGS_HANGING:64]
   [ITEM_IMPROVEMENT_MODIFIER:BANDS:384]
   [ITEM_IMPROVEMENT_MODIFIER:SPIKES:384]
   [ADVENTURE_TIER:4]
   [FRIENDLY_COLOR:1:0:1]
   [DEFAULT_SITE_TYPE:RUIN]
   [liKES_SITE:RUIN]
   [TOLERATES_SITE:CITY]
   [TOLERATES_SITE:DARK_FORTRESS]
   [TOLERATES_SITE:CAVE_DETAILED]
   [LEADER_TYPE:DUKE]
   [SITE_LEADER_TYPE:MASTER_THIEF]
   [START_BIOME:ANY_WETLAND]
   [BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_FOREST:1]
   [BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_WETLAND:3]
   [BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_GRASSLAND:1]
   [BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_POOL:2]
   [BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_SHRUBLAND:1]
   [BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_RIVER:1]
   [MERCHANT_BODYGUARDS]
   [ACTIVE_SEASON:SPRING]
   [SIEGER]
   [SKULKING]
   [MAX_STARTING_CIV_NUMBER:70]
   [START_GROUP_NUMBER:20]
   [MAX_POP_NUMBER:10000]
   [MAX_SITE_POP_NUMBER:200]
   [RELIGION:ANY_PANTHEON]
   [RELIGION_SPHERE:BLIGHT]
   [RELIGION_SPHERE:CHAOS]
   [RELIGION_SPHERE:DEATH]
   [RELIGION_SPHERE:DARKNESS]
   [RELIGION_SPHERE:FAMILY]
   [RELIGION_SPHERE:WEALTH]
   [CAN_HAVE_MILITARY_LEADER]
   [WANDERER]
   [BEAST_HUNTER]
   [SCOUT]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:MINER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:CARPENTER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:BOWYER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:WOODCUTTER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:ENGRAVER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:MASON]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:ANIMAL_CARETAKER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:ANIMAL_TRAINER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:HUNTER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:TRAPPER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:ANIMAL_DISSECTOR]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:FURNACE_OPERATOR]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:WEAPONSMITH]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:ARMORER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:BLACKSMITH]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:METALCRAFTER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:GEM_CUTTER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:GEM_SETTER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:WOODCRAFTER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:STONECRAFTER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:LEATHERWORKER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:BONE_CARVER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:WEAVER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:CLOTHIER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:GLASSMAKER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:STRAND_EXTRACTOR]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:FISHERMAN]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:FISH_DISSECTOR]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:FISH_CLEANER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:CHEESE_MAKER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:MILKER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:COOK]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:THRESHER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:MILLER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:BUTCHER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:TANNER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:DYER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:PLANTER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:HERBALIST]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:BREWER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:SOAP_MAKER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:POTASH_MAKER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:LYE_MAKER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:WOOD_BURNER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:MECHANIC]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:SIEGE_ENGINEER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:SIEGE_OPERATOR]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:PUMP_OPERATOR]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:CLERK]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:ADMINISTRATOR]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:TRADER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:ARCHITECT]
   [WORLD_CONSTRUCTION:TUNNEL]
   [WORLD_CONSTRUCTION:ROAD]
   [ETHIC:KILL_ENTITY_MEMBER:PUNISH_CAPITAL]
   [ETHIC:KILL_NEUTRAL:ACCEPTABLE]
   [ETHIC:KILL_ENEMY:ACCEPTABLE]
   [ETHIC:KILL_ANIMAL:ACCEPTABLE]
   [ETHIC:KILL_PLANT:ACCEPTABLE]
   [ETHIC:TORTURE_AS_EXAMPLE:PERSONAL_MATTER]
   [ETHIC:TORTURE_FOR_INFORMATION:JUSTIFIED_IF_GOOD_REASON]
   [ETHIC:TORTURE_FOR_FUN:PERSONAL_MATTER]
   [ETHIC:TORTURE_ANIMALS:UNTHINKABLE]
   [ETHIC:TREASON:PUNISH_CAPITAL]
   [ETHIC:OATH_BREAKING:PUNISH_EXILE]
   [ETHIC:LYING:PERSONAL_MATTER]
   [ETHIC:VANDALISM:PUNISH_EXILE]
   [ETHIC:TRESPASSING:PUNISH_REPRIMAND]
   [ETHIC:THEFT:PUNISH_REPRIMAND]
   [ETHIC:ASSAULT:PUNISH_SERIOUS]
   [ETHIC:SLAVERY:PERSONAL_MATTER]
   [ETHIC:EAT_SAPIENT_OTHER:PERSONAL_MATTER]
   [ETHIC:EAT_SAPIENT_KILL:PERSONAL_MATTER]
   [ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_SAME_RACE:ONLY_IF_SANCTIONED]
   [ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_SAPIENT:JUSTIFIED_IF_GOOD_REASON]
   [ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_ANIMAL:ACCEPTABLE]
   [WILL_ACCEPT_TRIBUTE]

And this is their creature status:

[CREATURE:RATMAN]
   [NAME:ratman:ratmen:ratman]
   [TILE:'r'][COLOR:0:0:1]
   [LARGE_ROAMING]
   [BIOME:SUBTERRANEAN_CHASM]
   [FREQUENCY:100]
   [GENPOWER:4]
   [INTELLIGENT]
   [CAN_LEARN][CAN_SPEAK]
   [CANOPENDOORS]
   [LARGE_PREDATOR]
   [POPULATION_NUMBER:15:30]
   [CLUSTER_NUMBER:5:7]
   [PREFSTRING:mystery]
   [BODY:HUMANOID:TAIL:2EYES:2EARS:NOSE:2LUNGS:HEART:GUTS:ORGANS:HUMANOID_JOINTS:THROAT:NECK:SPINE:BRAIN:4FINGERS:4TOES:MOUTH]
   [SIZE:4]
   [MAXAGE:80:120]
   [ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:GRASP:punch:punches:1:2:BLUDGEON][ATTACKFLAG_WITH]
   [ATTACK:SECOND:BYTYPE:MOUTH:bite:bites:1:2:GORE][ATTACKFLAG_CANLATCH]
   [CHILD:8][BABY:1][MULTIPLE_LITTER_COMMON]
   [FEATURE_ATTACK_GROUP]
   [EQUIPS]
   [FAT:1]
   [ALL_ACTIVE]
   [CRAFTSMAN_NAME:craftsrat:craftsrats]
   [FISHERMAN_NAME:fisher:fishers]
   [HAMMERMAN_NAME:hammerrat:hammerrats]
   [SPEARMAN_NAME:spearrat:spearratss]
   [CROSSBOWMAN_NAME:marksrat:marksrat]
   [AXEMAN_NAME:axerat:axerats]
   [SWORDSMAN_NAME:swordsrat:swordsrats]
   [MACEMAN_NAME:macerat:macerats]
   [PIKEMAN_NAME:pikerat:pikerats]
   [BOWMAN_NAME:bowrat:bowrats]
   [STANDARD_FLESH]
   [HOMEOTHERM:10067]
   [PERSONALITY:CAUTIOUSNESS:0:55:100]
   [PERSONALITY:ACTIVITY_LEVEL:0:45:100]
   [PERSONALITY:ANXIETY:0:55:100]
   [LAYERING:100]
   [SWIMS_INNATE][SWIM_SPEED:2500]

They;re not quite done with the tweeks, but this religion thing is driving me nuts
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Re: Religion Probs
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2008, 11:13:49 am »

You probably haven't created an appropriate power, and it's supposed to be [RELIGION:PANTHEON], not [RELIGION:ANY_PANTHEON]. Without religious sphere tags your pantheon will have random spheres anyway.

An appropriate power has to have appropriate religious spheres, or alignment. After all, the demon doesn't force the goblins to worship him, they freely choose to romp through patches of daisies with him after having a good time mutilating the corpses of their enemies. :)
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Re: Religion Probs
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2008, 11:38:58 am »

Beautiful; thank you very much, that gives me the info I needed.  =->
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