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Relee

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[39e] Strange Construction Problem
« on: July 25, 2008, 10:23:35 pm »

I couldn't think of a decent title for this weird problem.

When I started this fort, I brought an insane amount of wood, and built fourty beds for my barracks straight off. I set them to be built once my barracks was dug out, but since my dwarves were mostly busy doing their own thing they only planted a few of the beds.

Later on, when immigrants came, I had already dug out rooms for my nobles. I decided to check if I had any free beds, and it turned out I did; it said I have five beds. I decided I must have accidentally built more beds than I thought, and used three of the beds for some of my noble quarters.

The immigrants started building the many beds, they didn't have much else to do. The problem was, I started getting errors that said "Item nolonger exists." I quickly realized I really HAD only made fourty beds, and the three I had used on the noble quarters has somehow been 're-offered' for my building, even though they were already queued up for another building.

I also built a number of doors early on in my fort, but the dwarves never bothered putting them up. Only a couple of my original seven had furniture building on, and one of them was busy guarding my outdoor stash from kobolds. I'll see if the same problem crops up with those doors, now.

Edit: It just happened for one of the fourty tables in my barracks attached dining room; I had placed an 'extra table' in another room for my merchant to use as an office, but it wasn't extra after all.
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Re: [39e] Strange Construction Problem
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2008, 11:22:18 pm »

If you can get a save in the middle of some suspicious behavior, but before the job cancel, I might be able to figure something out, though I'm not sure.  If it's secretly slipping a job item out of a construction job, it might be very hard to locate the root cause.
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Re: [39e] Strange Construction Problem
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2008, 11:25:45 pm »

I'm afraid it's already sorted itself out by this point. I don't really know how to save a save either. If it happens again I'll try and look it up.

It was definately slipping job items out of a construction jobs, and allowing me to use them again. I only built three beds, even though it said I had five free ones. Two of the beds that were misappropriated were built in their proper locations, since the beds weren't taken and built somewhere else, and now I don't have any beds to build.
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Re: [39e] Strange Construction Problem
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2008, 01:40:42 am »

Ahh, it's happening again. Early on I had told my guys to build a wall around the nearest Murky Pool, which the fisherdwarves had started using for their fishing. I thought I'd make it a nice outdoor walled garden. But a couple of the wall fragments suddenly were cancelled 'cause the rock meant to build them had been used by something else.

There's still a bunch of wall parts waiting to be built, I bet some of them have also had their rocks stolen. I made a copy of my whole dwarf fortress folder and put it in a zip file, since I'm not sure how to get 'just the save'. How should I send it to you?
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Re: [39e] Strange Construction Problem
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2008, 03:36:06 am »

I think I can answer this.

Are you setting stone to be dumped?  Do you have a lot of it laying around?  Do you have job cancellations turned off?

If there's a forbidden item in the way, the dwarf won't be able to place the furniture there and will suspend the job.  If two peices of furniture are being placed next to each other, the dwarves can sometimes dump the stones in each other's way and suspend the job.  And any time a job is suspended, the item used for that job becomes available for placement elsewhere again, even though the designation doesn't go away.

Basically, this is just a problem with trying to build a whole lot of stuff underground at once, and you and the dwarves get distracted.

Unless of course it's a real bug and I'm totally wrong.
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Re: [39e] Strange Construction Problem
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2008, 04:21:48 am »

Saves are stored in data/save/region#
Just grab the ~5MB region folder, zip if you want (but it doesn't seem to reduce file size by much), and host it somewhere (mediafire, medaupload, yousendit).
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