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[Idiom]

I dug straight down onto the demon pit in the middle of my map, up/down stairs all the way down.
I was thinking: "Woo! Lets see some slaughter!"
Nope. Cracked open the roof of the very top of the demon chamber.
There is no up stair to connect the chamber to my staircase. Thought I was lucky, because they couldn't get up to me, but I could now see the whole chamber and dig out all the Adamantine without ever letting any demons out.
Yet, about a minute later, a demon appears half-way up the fort's central staircase, irregardless to the fact that there was no way onto those stairs from the demon pit.

The story has a happy ending. The ranger who was on the surface hunting gave everyone else the finger, and built a wall from the wagon wood over the fort's exit, sealing the demon in. The miner in the picture dug some channels around the corner you see at the top of the room he was carving out, and so the demon could not maul him or set him aflame from around the corner. He dug to the top to meet the ranger and they both started again. The demon roams down in the old fort a lot among the burnt bodies, but has never been able to get down into the pit again due to a lack of stairs that didn't stop him last time.

Are they supposed to materialize out of air, fly, be 12 feet tall, or climb through holes in the ceiling? If not, then I believe this to be a bug, as conventional game path finding should have kept it in the pit.
I have a save of when it first appeared on the stairs if it is needed.

[Tiler]

Demons can fly.

[Idiom]

Demons can fly.

Then why can I hold them at bay with channels? Be serious now, they can't fly. Or at least it's not in the raws.

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[CREATURE:DEMON]
[NAME:demon:demons:demonic]
[TILE:'&'][COLOR:4:0:1]
[MODVALUE:50]
[FANCIFUL][ENDING][POWER]
[FIREBREATH][FIREIMMUNE][LIKES_FIGHTING][MAGMA_VISION]
[FLIER]
[TRAPAVOID][CAN_LEARN][CAN_SPEAK]
[GENPOWER:5]
[BLOODTYPE:0]
[EVIL]
[BUILDINGDESTROYER:2]
[NOFEAR][NOEXERT]
[CANOPENDOORS]
[PREFSTRING:terrifying features]
[BODY:HUMANOID:TAIL:2EYES:2EARS:NOSE:2LUNGS:HEART:GUTS:ORGANS:HUMANOID_JOINTS:THROAT:NECK:SPINE:BRAIN:5FINGERS:5TOES:MOUTH]
[SIZE:16]
[ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:MOUTH:bite:bites:1:6:BURN][ATTACKFLAG_CANLATCH]
[ATTACK:SECOND:BYTYPE:GRASP:punch:punches:1:2:BLUDGEON][ATTACKFLAG_WITH]
[NO_DRINK][NO_EAT][NO_SLEEP]
[EQUIPS]
[FAT:3]
[ALL_ACTIVE]
[STANDARD_FLESH]
[HOMEOTHERM:10095]
[SWIMS_INNATE][SWIM_SPEED:2500]
[PERSONALITY:ANXIETY:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:DEPRESSION:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:SELF_CONSCIOUSNESS:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:VULNERABILITY:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:FRIENDLINESS:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:ASSERTIVENESS:100:100:100]
[PERSONALITY:CHEERFULNESS:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:TRUST:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:STRAIGHTFORWARDNESS:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:ALTRUISM:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:COOPERATION:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:SYMPATHY:0:0:0]
[SPHERE:FIRE]
[SPHERE:DEATH]
[SPHERE:TORTURE]

[Inquisitor Saturn]

Demons can fly.

Then why can I hold them at bay with channels? Be serious now, they can't fly. Or at least it's not in the raws.

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[FLIER]


*Cough*

[Flame11235]

Demons can fly.

Then why can I hold them at bay with channels? Be serious now, they can't fly. Or at least it's not in the raws.

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[CREATURE:DEMON]
[NAME:demon:demons:demonic]
[TILE:'&'][COLOR:4:0:1]
[MODVALUE:50]
[FANCIFUL][ENDING][POWER]
[FIREBREATH][FIREIMMUNE][LIKES_FIGHTING][MAGMA_VISION]
-----> *****[FLIER]******
[TRAPAVOID][CAN_LEARN][CAN_SPEAK]
[GENPOWER:5]
[BLOODTYPE:0]
[EVIL]
[BUILDINGDESTROYER:2]
[NOFEAR][NOEXERT]
[CANOPENDOORS]
[PREFSTRING:terrifying features]
[BODY:HUMANOID:TAIL:2EYES:2EARS:NOSE:2LUNGS:HEART:GUTS:ORGANS:HUMANOID_JOINTS:THROAT:NECK:SPINE:BRAIN:5FINGERS:5TOES:MOUTH]
[SIZE:16]
[ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:MOUTH:bite:bites:1:6:BURN][ATTACKFLAG_CANLATCH]
[ATTACK:SECOND:BYTYPE:GRASP:punch:punches:1:2:BLUDGEON][ATTACKFLAG_WITH]
[NO_DRINK][NO_EAT][NO_SLEEP]
[EQUIPS]
[FAT:3]
[ALL_ACTIVE]
[STANDARD_FLESH]
[HOMEOTHERM:10095]
[SWIMS_INNATE][SWIM_SPEED:2500]
[PERSONALITY:ANXIETY:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:DEPRESSION:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:SELF_CONSCIOUSNESS:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:VULNERABILITY:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:FRIENDLINESS:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:ASSERTIVENESS:100:100:100]
[PERSONALITY:CHEERFULNESS:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:TRUST:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:STRAIGHTFORWARDNESS:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:ALTRUISM:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:COOPERATION:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:SYMPATHY:0:0:0]
[SPHERE:FIRE]
[SPHERE:DEATH]
[SPHERE:TORTURE]

[Torak]

[CREATURE:DEMON]
[FLIER]

[Wooty]

[Torak]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[Idiom]

*squints* Oh. rofl.
You never see what you're looking for.
It's a plain demon too. Never tried holding those back with channels. Yet this one is too retarded to fly over the channels my miner used in his escape and slaughter everyone outside.

Never mind then. I guess the only bug here is the demon being too retarded to remember it can fly over the channel. And that the only thing keeping him from reaching the surface by going straight up the stairs is a log (Wooden pillar technically, which is regardless nothing but a bloody log) someone dropped on the top stair.

[Abyss]

In order to, say, fly over a channel, fliers need to be able to have a non-flying path to their target on the other side of the channels. Crazy, yet true.

Giant Eagles and such, which just fly around randomly, aren't held back by such restrictions, at least when just... flying around randomly.

[MuonDecay]

In order to, say, fly over a channel, fliers need to be able to have a non-flying path to their target on the other side of the channels. Crazy, yet true.

Giant Eagles and such, which just fly around randomly, aren't held back by such restrictions, at least when just... flying around randomly.

This would seem to bring up an amusing conundrum in that the demon cannot leave the pits if it specifically wants to go someplace or do something outside... but if it decides to take a jolly wandering flight it may find itself leaving them at some point along the way.

This is terrifically arcane... demons who cannot leave their prison unless they aren't trying to.

[Draco18s]

best way to break into the Pits is to mine out one of the little pools of water (so that by digging a wet wall all the water rushes out).  This leaves a channel as the only method of escape and demons won't take it (or at least not quickly).  I went the safe route and walled it up after I did that.

[Qmarx]

In order to, say, fly over a channel, fliers need to be able to have a non-flying path to their target on the other side of the channels. Crazy, yet true.

Giant Eagles and such, which just fly around randomly, aren't held back by such restrictions, at least when just... flying around randomly.

This would seem to bring up an amusing conundrum in that the demon cannot leave the pits if it specifically wants to go someplace or do something outside... but if it decides to take a jolly wandering flight it may find itself leaving them at some point along the way.

This is terrifically arcane... demons who cannot leave their prison unless they aren't trying to.

You're right.  That's a really cool interpretation.