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Author Topic: [39e, bug?] Crossbow armed dorfs sparring with crossbows as hammers  (Read 921 times)

Hyndis

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I have an amply supply of bolts in my fortress, mostly made of goblin bone though I also have a decent stockpile of copper bolts, and 5 archery ranges set up, which are heavily used.

However, I have 12 soldiers at the moment (young fort) and not all of them can fit on the archery range. Those dorfs not using the archery range are sparring in the barracks, however they're using their crossbows in melee, thus training up the hammer skill.


Not that this is a bad thing, of course. Its just a bit unusual. I'm not even sure its a bug, its certainly an excellent feature, allowing crossbow dorfs to train crossbow, hammer, armor user, and shield user skills all at the same time...and using crossbows in melee, there's almost no chance of injury since their melee damage is so low.

I'm just wondering if its intended or not.  :)
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Re: [39e, bug?] Crossbow armed dorfs sparring with crossbows as hammers
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2008, 09:55:38 pm »

Strange, on further investigation, it appears that the majority of my marksmen will not equip bolts at all. They'll grab a crossbow and a quiver, but they won't pick up any bolts to put in the quiver, let alone pick up any extras to train with at the archery range. I have around 1000 rounds of copper ammunition, so there's plenty to put into quivers, even if I've expended most of the goblin bone ammunition on training.
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Re: [39e, bug?] Crossbow armed dorfs sparring with crossbows as hammers
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2008, 11:14:56 pm »

Are they holding any other items in their hands?  I don't see how they can get through this skill restriction I'm looking at.  If you've got a save prior to somebody taking such a training job, I can look at it.

They will only train with wood/bone bolts.  I haven't yet added an option to extend it to metal when get enough.  I dunno why they wouldn't put the bolts in the quiver though.
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Re: [39e, bug?] Crossbow armed dorfs sparring with crossbows as hammers
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2008, 12:41:48 am »

I haven't been able to reproduce this, but it all started when I sent my marksdorfs out to fight a goblin siege. They used up most of their ammo then closed for melee, punting the goblins off a nearby cliff with most excellent results.  ;D

However, I did get a bunch of "Urist cancels pickup equipment: interrupted by goblin" messages right before the melee fight. After the goblins were all dead, I put the dorfs offduty to go use up all of the single bolts of ammo laying around just to clean up clutter. The dorfs that didn't attempt to reload before closing to melee were able to use the archery range just fine. The dorfs that had their reload actions interrupted (and thus had no ammo at all on them) were the ones sparring with their crossbows in melee, working on their hammerdorf skills.

Unfortunately, I don't have the save for it.  :(

But so far as I can tell, this is the chain of events that led up to the rather interesting bug/feature.

After removing all crossbows to have them practice wrestling more then reequipping crossbows later on, the bug appears to have vanished.

Perhaps its triggered if the pickup equipment (ammo) job is interrupted?
« Last Edit: July 26, 2008, 12:44:16 am by Hyndis »
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