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Soadreqm

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Fire imps can't climb, right?
« on: June 16, 2008, 01:22:44 pm »
If I build a dumping chute like this:
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Z=n       Z=n-1     Z=n-2     
+++++     #####     #####     
+...+     #...#     #~~~#     
+...+     #...#     #~~~#     
+...+     #...#     #~~~#     
+++++     #####     #####

+ floor
. open space
# wall
~ magma
Is anything nasty going to come crawling out? Can the imps fly or shoot fireballs directly upward or something dangerous like that?
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Re: Fire imps can't climb, right?
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2008, 01:26:22 pm »
Well, this is what the flight is used for. Imps can freely move between z-levels.
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Re: Fire imps can't climb, right?
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2008, 01:38:17 pm »
I haven't noticed imps move up into the air before; they can swim up and down in magma, though, as can fire men (though, for some reason, not magma men). They certainly don't chuck fireballs across Z-levels.
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Re: Fire imps can't climb, right?
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2008, 01:48:48 pm »
Fire imps and fire men are innate swimmers.  They can "swim" through magma, but they cannot fly.

Magma men can't swim, so they're stuck where they fall.
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Re: Fire imps can't climb, right?
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2008, 02:00:36 pm »
Quote from: Kagus on June 16, 2008, 01:48:48 pm
Fire imps and fire men are innate swimmers.  They can "swim" through magma, but they cannot fly.
Ditto. In order to fly (and hence meet what Deon said above about them being able to move freely between z-levels), they'd need to have the [FLIER] tag. They don't have this.

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Magma men can't swim, so they're stuck where they fall.
They don't know how to swim innately like fire imps or fire men, but according to the raws they can learn to swim...would it not be the case that if a game continues for long enough then they CAN (eventually) swim through magma? I don't actually have a clue, but that was my understanding of it...but I know there was a problem with underground river creatures being monstrously strong by the time they were discovered because they're constantly swimming a few versions ago, so was the swimming skill increase switched off for NPCs?
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Re: Fire imps can't climb, right?
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2008, 08:42:15 pm »
From what I've read, toady just turned off the skill buffs for innate swimmers. Otherwise, it was unchanged.
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Re: Fire imps can't climb, right?
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2008, 10:24:26 am »
Great. One thing less to worry about.
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