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[valcon]

so uh ...

bats can use swords now eh?

this bat grabbed me by the sword

then proceeded to beat and behead me with it.

a bat.

i don't care how giant it is, its not gonna swing a friggin sword.

also enjoy the bonus shot of the drunk beating something up with his loincloth.

[Agdune]

I do love a good yarn about beatings with clothing, but a loincloth? That's beyond awesome. Also, I don't see a terrible problem with a giant bat stealing your sword and beating you with it, they've got clawed feet after all.

[valcon]

i guess i just have a hard time imagining a giant bat doing anything remotely similar to a "hack" maneuver  

i'm not crying for balance or anything, i just wanted to point it out as an oddball thing, not like 99% of DF isn't already pretty oddball, as evidenced by said loincloth

[Rob Allen]

It wouldn't have neccessarily had to swing the sword as an intelligent being would have.  Maybe it just was flailing around with the sword in its grip and it happened to produce a nice arc that hacked into you as if swung by a swordsman.  That's certainly realistic.  Creatures will often hang on to limbs torn off during a fight for a while.  A dog in my current fortress carried a kobold arm a few feet before dropping it the other day.

A suggestion, however: perhaps non-intelligent creatures who get ahold of weapons should be more likely to drop them and/or liable to hit themselves with it as well as anything else they happen to be nearby.  This would add a nice element of chaos to fights, though they are already pretty chaotic as is.

[ January 13, 2008: Message edited by: Rob Allen ]

[eltorre]

the drunk hacks himself in the head with the iron long sword.
the drunk loses the hold of the jaguar leather cap.
the drunk's head flies in a bloody arc.
the drunk has been stuck down.

well.. it will be a usual log if you enable the "things with no skill uses weapons and hits themshelves". also change the words "iron long sword" with "Racoon leather pants" and you will get a closer idea ^^

[Sean Mirrsen]

There's already a function in the game that gradually removes objects you posess by accident, especially if they would normally interfere with your attacking. I've been playing a black dragon adventurer, and have been getting messages like "You let the elf swordsman's head slip away as you attack.".

[Dasqoot]

What a sweet bat. I'd love to have a squadron of tamed giant bats with masterwork swords in each claw.