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[joostheger]

I want a spawned vermin 'A' to apply a syndrome to my CustomCreature 'B'.

creature A:
- VERMIN_SOIL

creaure B:
- ROOT_AROUND

Its been ages and I'am struggling with this. first I tried the gobbling/ingestion mechanic (as you might have seen). Then I tried as Eric suggested using the VERBIN_BITE mechanic. This works, but also my dwarfs get bitten all the time.

So ive tried:
* gobbling / eating - wont apply
* Continues secretions with gas - no gas is seen, probably because the despawn within 40 ticks. 
* can_do_interactions - they dont interact. I dont get them to do it spontaniously as a greeting, defence or fleeing interaction. Why: I dont know. they quickly despawn.
* verbin_bite: does work. But i get constantly announcements.

Please help

[aradar]

Did you add after vermin bite [die_when_vermin_bite] ?

[joostheger]

yes I did. but I also got the announcement

[joostheger]

I also dont get vermin to directly attack any creatures. I even made them [crazed] and [opposed_to_live], but they didnt attack. Otherwise I could have used the attack-interaction or something. I also tried Fleequick and benign. no effect. I think Vermin wont ever get hostile.

The thing I could try, is to see if cats get the syndrome by hunting and eating vermin. to be seen. Edit: nope.

[joostheger]

Is it even possible to target vermin in an interaction?
I made a syndrome fluid but the vermin's weren't affected at all.

What I was trying to do, were the first steps for transforming the vermin into a creature, capable of combat. havent worked it out yet

[joostheger]

Sight.. probably a dead end...
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=155531.msg6738156#msg6738156

[aradar]

Ouch that seals it then 😭

Worse case you could make a (*-sudo vermin-*) from an actual creature and go from there ? Not sure if that would work for your project or not though

I have a small creature that I summon with a reaction it's crazed when it appears and if certain condition are met it performs an interaction that applies syndromes and does other things
I have it setup as a [night_creature_nightmare] so it leaves no corpses when it dies


this is just a copy of a dwarf with some flaver details changed

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[OBJECT:CREATURE]
[CREATURE:SPIRIT_OF_LIFE]
   
[DESCRIPTION:You summoned this: a short whimsical creature made entirely of magic,it becomes berserk upon entering this plane of exsistance attacking everything in sight, it can raise fallen allys from the dead if you are lucky and quick to action.]
   [NAME:spirit:spirit:spirit]
   [CASTE_NAME:spirit:spirit:spirit]
   [CREATURE_TILE:1][COLOR:3:0:0]
   [CREATURE_SOLDIER_TILE:2]
   [CREATURE_CLASS:MAMMAL]
   [FIREIMMUNE_SUPER]
   [NIGHT_CREATURE_NIGHTMARE][SUPERNATURAL]
   [PET]
   Many of the following tags are actually caste-level tags (in this case, male and female), but because there are no differences between the castes for these tags in a dwarf, you can add them earlier.  Any caste-level tag that occurs before castes are explicitly declared is saved up and placed on any cast that is declared later, unless the caste is explicitly derived from another caste.

   INTELLIGENT
   [STRANGE_MOODS]
   [TRANCES]
   [BENIGN]
   [CANOPENDOORS]
   [PREFSTRING:beards]
[BODY:HUMANOID_NECK:2EYES:2EARS:NOSE:2LUNGS:HEART:GUTS:ORGANS:HUMANOID_JOINTS:THROAT:NECK:SPINE:BRAIN:SKULL:5FINGERS:5TOES:MOUTH:TONGUE:FACIAL_FEATURES:TEETH:RIBCAGE]

   Next we use body detail plans (which have their own raw file) to streamline the addition of some of the common materials, tissues and their relationships with each other.

   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_MATERIALS]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_TISSUES]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:VERTEBRATE_TISSUE_LAYERS:SKIN:FAT:MUSCLE:BONE:CARTILAGE]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:HEAD_HAIR_TISSUE_LAYERS]

   Eyebrows and eyelashes are manually added here.

   [USE_TISSUE_TEMPLATE:EYEBROW:EYEBROW_TEMPLATE]
   [TISSUE_LAYER:BY_CATEGORY:HEAD:EYEBROW:ABOVE:BY_CATEGORY:EYE]
   [USE_TISSUE_TEMPLATE:EYELASH:EYELASH_TEMPLATE]
   [TISSUE_LAYER:BY_CATEGORY:EYELID:EYELASH:FRONT]

   And nails.

   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:NAIL:NAIL_TEMPLATE]
   [USE_TISSUE_TEMPLATE:NAIL:NAIL_TEMPLATE]
   [TISSUE_LAYER:BY_CATEGORY:FINGER:NAIL:FRONT]
   [TISSUE_LAYER:BY_CATEGORY:TOE:NAIL:FRONT]

   Set up some major arteries that couldn't be handled in the raw templates.  The selection commands can be used to grab tissue layers to adjust their properties after they have been created.

   [SELECT_TISSUE_LAYER:HEART:BY_CATEGORY:HEART]
    [PLUS_TISSUE_LAYER:SKIN:BY_CATEGORY:THROAT]
      [TL_MAJOR_ARTERIES]

   Then back to some more body detail plans.

   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:FACIAL_HAIR_TISSUES]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_HEAD_POSITIONS]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:HUMANOID_HEAD_POSITIONS]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:HUMANOID_RIBCAGE_POSITIONS]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:HUMANOID_RELSIZES]
   [RELSIZE:BY_CATEGORY:LIVER:300] Of course!  Standard relative size for humanoids is 200.

   Tendons and ligaments are currently very abstract, but adding these flags will let wounds occur that damage them.  The number afterward is the healing rate.  Lower is faster.

   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SINEW:SINEW_TEMPLATE]
   [TENDONS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:SINEW:200]
   [LIGAMENTS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:SINEW:200]

   This makes the creature susceptible to severed nerves when muscles are torn in limb, grasp and stance parts.

   [HAS_NERVES]

   This controls the bleeding behavior.

   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:BLOOD:BLOOD_TEMPLATE]
   [BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:BLOOD:LIQUID]

   These classes are used by syndromes (such as poison) as well as some restricted entity positions.  You can name them whatever you want.

   [CREATURE_CLASS:GENERAL_POISON]

   Some tags to control the overall infection behavior.

   [GETS_WOUND_INFECTIONS]
   [GETS_INFECTIONS_FROM_ROT]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:PUS:PUS_TEMPLATE]
   [PUS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:PUS:LIQUID]

   Some additional materials.

   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SWEAT:SWEAT_TEMPLATE]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:TEARS:TEARS_TEMPLATE]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SPIT:SPIT_TEMPLATE]

   [SECRETION:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:SWEAT:LIQUID:BY_CATEGORY:ALL:SKIN:EXERTION]
   [SECRETION:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:TEARS:LIQUID:BY_CATEGORY:EYE:ALL:EXTREME_EMOTION]

   [CAN_DO_INTERACTION:PET_ANIMAL]
      [CDI:ADV_NAME:Pet animal]
      [CDI:USAGE_HINT:GREETING]
      [CDI:BP_REQUIRED:BY_TYPE:GRASP]
      [CDI:VERB:pet:pets:pets]
      [CDI:TARGET:A:SELF_ONLY]
      [CDI:TARGET:B:TOUCHABLE]
      [CDI:TARGET_RANGE:B:1]
      [CDI:MAX_TARGET_NUMBER:B:1]
      [CDI:WAIT_PERIOD:20]

   









   Attributes for dwarves are still described in terms of the median value below, but the actual game effects are altered according to the raw numbers.  The numbers are different percentile values.  1000 is the human median for all attributes, so dwarven strength, for instance, has a higher median of 1250, although they suffer from their smaller size.

   [PHYS_ATT_RANGE:STRENGTH:450:950:1150:1250:1350:1550:2250]              +
   [PHYS_ATT_RANGE:AGILITY:150:600:800:900:1000:1100:1500]                 -
   [PHYS_ATT_RANGE:TOUGHNESS:450:950:1150:1250:1350:1550:2250]             +
   [MENT_ATT_RANGE:ANALYTICAL_ABILITY:450:950:1150:1250:1350:1550:2250]    +
   [MENT_ATT_RANGE:FOCUS:700:1200:1400:1500:1600:1800:2500]                ++
   [MENT_ATT_RANGE:CREATIVITY:450:950:1150:1250:1350:1550:2250]            +
   [MENT_ATT_RANGE:PATIENCE:450:950:1150:1250:1350:1550:2250]              +
   [MENT_ATT_RANGE:MEMORY:450:950:1150:1250:1350:1550:2250]                +
   [MENT_ATT_RANGE:SPATIAL_SENSE:700:1200:1400:1500:1600:1800:2500]        ++

   These tags establish the growth phases of the creature's life.  The format is (BODY_SIZE|<year>|<day>|<average size>).

   [BODY_SIZE:0:0:3000]
   [BODY_SIZE:1:168:15000]
   [BODY_SIZE:12:0:60000]

   These body modifiers give individual dwarves different characteristics.  In the case of HEIGHT, BROADNESS and LENGTH, the modifier is also a percentage change to the BODY_SIZE of the individual creature.  The seven numbers afterward give a distribution of ranges.  Each interval has an equal chance of occurring.

   [BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:HEIGHT:75:95:98:100:102:105:125]
      [APP_MOD_IMPORTANCE:500]
   [BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:BROADNESS:75:95:98:100:102:105:125]
      [APP_MOD_IMPORTANCE:500]

   In order to set properties for body parts, first you select them.  In this case, we select all body parts of category EYE, then we add a few modifiers to them.

   [SET_BP_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:EYE]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:CLOSE_SET:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
         [APP_MOD_NOUN:eyes:PLURAL]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:DEEP_SET:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
         [APP_MOD_NOUN:eyes:PLURAL]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:ROUND_VS_NARROW:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
         [APP_MOD_NOUN:eyes:PLURAL]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:LARGE_IRIS:25:70:90:100:110:130:200]
         [APP_MOD_NOUN:eyes:PLURAL]
         [APP_MOD_DESC_RANGE:30:60:90:110:150:190]

   [SET_BP_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:LIP]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:THICKNESS:50:70:90:100:110:130:200]
         [APP_MOD_NOUN:lips:PLURAL]
         [APP_MOD_DESC_RANGE:55:70:90:110:150:190]

   [SET_BP_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:NOSE]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:BROADNESS:25:70:90:100:110:130:200]
         [APP_MOD_DESC_RANGE:30:60:90:110:150:190]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:LENGTH:25:70:90:100:110:130:200]
         [APP_MOD_DESC_RANGE:30:60:90:110:150:190]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:UPTURNED:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:CONVEX:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
         [APP_MOD_NOUN:nose bridge:SINGULAR]

   [SET_BP_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:EAR]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:SPLAYED_OUT:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
         [APP_MOD_NOUN:ears:PLURAL]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:HANGING_LOBES:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
         [APP_MOD_NOUN:ears:PLURAL]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:BROADNESS:90:95:98:100:102:105:110]
         [APP_MOD_IMPORTANCE:700]
         [APP_MOD_NOUN:ears:PLURAL]
         [APP_MOD_DESC_RANGE:91:94:98:102:106:109]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:HEIGHT:90:95:98:100:102:105:110]
         [APP_MOD_IMPORTANCE:700]
         [APP_MOD_NOUN:ears:PLURAL]
         [APP_MOD_DESC_RANGE:91:94:98:102:106:109]

   [SET_BP_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:TOOTH]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:GAPS:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
         [APP_MOD_NOUN:teeth:PLURAL]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:LENGTH:100:100:100:100:100:100:100] for vampires
         [APP_MOD_IMPORTANCE:1000]
         [APP_MOD_NOUN:teeth:PLURAL]
         [APP_MOD_DESC_RANGE:30:60:90:110:150:190]

   [SET_BP_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:SKULL]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:HIGH_CHEEKBONES:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:BROAD_CHIN:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:JUTTING_CHIN:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:SQUARE_CHIN:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]

   [SET_BP_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:THROAT]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:DEEP_VOICE:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:RASPY_VOICE:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]

   [SET_BP_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:HEAD]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:BROADNESS:90:95:98:100:102:105:110]
         [APP_MOD_IMPORTANCE:700]
         [APP_MOD_DESC_RANGE:91:94:98:102:106:109]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:HEIGHT:90:95:98:100:102:105:110]
         [APP_MOD_IMPORTANCE:700]
         [APP_MOD_DESC_RANGE:91:94:98:102:106:109]

   These are as before.

   [MAXAGE:150:170]

   Attack definitions are formatted as follows:

   

   This is the new format for making specific unit names for a creature.  Any unit token can be used.  If you want to add a caste-specific profession name, use CASTE_PROFESSION_NAME instead, once the caste has been declared.

   
   [HOMEOTHERM:10067]
   [ALCOHOL_DEPENDENT]
   [SYNDROME_DILUTION_FACTOR:INEBRIATION:150]
   [APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_BIPED_GAITS:900:711:521:293:1900:2900] 30 kph
   [APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_CLIMBING_GAITS:5951:5419:4898:1463:6944:8233] 6 kph
   [APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_SWIMMING_GAITS:5951:5419:4898:1463:6944:8233] 6 kph
   [APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_CRAWLING_GAITS:2990:2257:1525:731:4300:6100] 12 kph
   [SWIMS_LEARNED]
   [PERSONALITY:IMMODERATION:0:55:100]
   [PERSONALITY:STRESS_VULNERABILITY:0:45:100]
   [PERSONALITY:BASHFUL:0:45:100]
   [PERSONALITY:SINGLEMINDED:0:55:100]
   [PERSONALITY:GREED:0:55:100]
   [MANNERISM_FINGERS:finger:fingers]
   [MANNERISM_NOSE:nose]
   [MANNERISM_EAR:ear]
   [MANNERISM_HEAD:head]
   [MANNERISM_EYES:eyes]
   [MANNERISM_MOUTH:mouth]
   [MANNERISM_HAIR:hair]
   [MANNERISM_KNUCKLES:knuckles]
   [MANNERISM_LIPS:lips]
   [MANNERISM_CHEEK:cheek]
   [MANNERISM_NAILS:nails]
   [MANNERISM_FEET:feet]
   [MANNERISM_ARMS:arms]
   [MANNERISM_HANDS:hands]
   [MANNERISM_TONGUE:tongue]
   [MANNERISM_LEG:leg]
   [MANNERISM_LAUGH]
   [MANNERISM_SMILE]
   [MANNERISM_WALK]
   [MANNERISM_SIT]
   [MANNERISM_BREATH]
   [MANNERISM_POSTURE]
   [MANNERISM_STRETCH]
   [MANNERISM_EYELIDS]
   [SPOUSE_CONVERSION_TARGET]
   
   Now we'll declare the specific castes.

   
[CASTE:SPIRIT_OF_LIFE]
   [CASTE_NAME:Life Spirit:Life Spirit:Life Spirit]
      The gender tag lets it know how breeding works.
      [FEMALE]
      [CRAZED]
      [MULTIPLE_LITTER_RARE]
      [APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:ADD_SUFFIXED_ESSENCE_TISSUE_LAYER:SPIRIT_OF_LIFE]
      [SET_BP_GROUP:BY_TYPE:LOWERBODY]

      [CAN_DO_INTERACTION:RAISE_DEAD]
      [CDI:MAX_TARGET_NUMBER:A:1]
      [CDI:TARGET_RANGE:A:30]
            

      To add beards, put square brackets around the following:
      BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:FACIAL_HAIR_TISSUE_LAYERS
   [CASTE:MALE]
      [MALE]
      [SET_BP_GROUP:BY_TYPE:LOWERBODY][BP_ADD_TYPE:GELDABLE]
      [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:FACIAL_HAIR_TISSUE_LAYERS]




   This command lets you select all of the castes again.

   [SELECT_CASTE:ALL]
      


      Now we'll select all of the hair tissue layers we can find so that we can add colorations to them.  Even if the castes have different tissue layers, it'll find the layers and establish modifiers for each of the castes properly.

      [SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:HEAD:HAIR]
       [PLUS_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:CHEEK:CHEEK_WHISKERS]
       [PLUS_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:HEAD:CHIN_WHISKERS]
       [PLUS_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:HEAD:MOUSTACHE]
       [PLUS_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:HEAD:SIDEBURNS]
       [PLUS_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:HEAD:EYEBROW]
       [PLUS_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:EYELID:EYELASH]
         
         A color modifier takes a list of color patterns (every color is associated to a monotone color pattern of its color, so you can also use color tokens) and frequencies.

   [TL_COLOR_MODIFIER:AMBER:1:AUBURN:1:BLACK:1:BROWN:1:BUFF:1:BURNT_SIENNA:1:BURNT_UMBER:1:CHARCOAL:1:CHESTNUT:1:CHOCOLATE:1:CINNAMON:1:COPPER:1:DARK_BROWN:1:DARK_CHESTNUT:1:DARK_TAN:1:ECRU:1:FLAX:1:GOLD:1:GOLDEN_YELLOW:1:GOLDENROD:1:LIGHT_BROWN:1:MAHOGANY:1:OCHRE:1:PALE_BROWN:1:PALE_CHESTNUT:1:PUMPKIN:1:RAW_UMBER:1:RUSSET:1:SAFFRON:1:SEPIA:1:TAN:1:TAUPE_DARK:1:TAUPE_GRAY:1:TAUPE_MEDIUM:1:TAUPE_PALE:1:TAUPE_SANDY:1]
            [TLCM_NOUN:hair:SINGULAR]
         [TL_COLOR_MODIFIER:GRAY:1]

            This gives the start and finish time in <year>|<days> for the color change to occur
      
            [TLCM_NOUN:hair:SINGULAR]
            [TLCM_TIMING:ROOT:80:0:130:0]
         [TL_COLOR_MODIFIER:WHITE:1]
            [TLCM_NOUN:hair:SINGULAR]
            [TLCM_TIMING:ROOT:130:0:150:0]

      Now we'll select the eyebrows and eyelashes and give them variable lengths.

      [SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:HEAD:EYEBROW]
         [TISSUE_LAYER_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:LENGTH:50:80:90:100:110:120:150]
            [APP_MOD_NOUN:eyebrows:PLURAL]
            [APP_MOD_DESC_RANGE:55:70:90:110:130:145]
         [TISSUE_LAYER_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:DENSE:50:80:90:100:110:120:150]
            [APP_MOD_NOUN:eyebrows:PLURAL]
            [APP_MOD_DESC_RANGE:55:70:90:110:130:145]
         [TISSUE_LAYER_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:HIGH_POSITION:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
            [APP_MOD_NOUN:eyebrows:PLURAL]

      [SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:EYELID:EYELASH]
         [TISSUE_LAYER_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:LENGTH:50:80:90:100:110:120:150]
            [APP_MOD_NOUN:eyelashes:PLURAL]
            [APP_MOD_DESC_RANGE:55:70:90:110:130:145]

      All of the other hair is selected and started at length zero.  It's fine to group them all together like this -- the creature can still accomodate different lengths once hair cutting/styling goes in.  I used one modifier here because the growth rates and starting length are all the same.

      [SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:HEAD:HAIR]
       [PLUS_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:CHEEK:CHEEK_WHISKERS]
       [PLUS_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:HEAD:CHIN_WHISKERS]
       [PLUS_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:HEAD:MOUSTACHE]
       [PLUS_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:HEAD:SIDEBURNS]
         [TISSUE_LAYER_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:LENGTH:0:0:0:0:0:0:0]
            [APP_MOD_NOUN:hair:SINGULAR]

            Here we set the growth rate.  This will change the modifier (LENGTH) by 1 each day up to a maximum of 1000 from the start of the dwarf's life (early beards!) for as long as the dwarf is alive.  The format is (APP_MOD_RATE|<rate>|<scale>|<min>|<max>|<start year>|<start day>|<end year>|<end day>) where the final two tokens can be replaced by NO_END if the growth is to continue indefinitely.
            
            [APP_MOD_RATE:1:DAILY:0:1000:0:0:NO_END]
            [APP_MOD_DESC_RANGE:10:25:75:125:200:300]

         [TISSUE_LAYER_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:CURLY:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
            [APP_MOD_NOUN:hair:SINGULAR]
         [TISSUE_LAYER_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:GREASY:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
            [APP_MOD_NOUN:hair:SINGULAR]
         [TISSUE_LAYER_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:DENSE:50:80:90:100:110:120:150]
            [APP_MOD_NOUN:hair:SINGULAR]
            [APP_MOD_DESC_RANGE:55:70:90:110:130:145]

      [SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:HEAD:HAIR]
         [TISSUE_STYLE_UNIT:HAIR:STANDARD_HAIR_SHAPINGS]
            [TSU_NOUN:hair:SINGULAR]

      [SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:CHEEK:CHEEK_WHISKERS]
       [PLUS_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:HEAD:CHIN_WHISKERS]
         [TISSUE_STYLE_UNIT:BEARD:STANDARD_BEARD_SHAPINGS]
            [TSU_NOUN:beard:SINGULAR]

      [SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:HEAD:MOUSTACHE]
         [TISSUE_STYLE_UNIT:MOUSTACHE:STANDARD_MOUSTACHE_SHAPINGS]
            [TSU_NOUN:moustache:SINGULAR]

      [SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:HEAD:SIDEBURNS]
         [TISSUE_STYLE_UNIT:SIDEBURNS:STANDARD_SIDEBURNS_SHAPINGS]
            [TSU_NOUN:sideburns:PLURAL]

      Here we handle nail length.

      *** need a new style to keep these short and need to make the entity def say to keep them short
      SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:FINGER:NAIL]
       PLUS_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:TOE:NAIL]
         TISSUE_LAYER_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:LENGTH:100:100:100:100:100:100:100]
            APP_MOD_RATE:1:DAILY:0:1000:0:0:NO_END]
            APP_MOD_NOUN:nails:PLURAL]

      Here all of the skin is selected and various colors are listed.

      [SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:ALL:SKIN]
   [TL_COLOR_MODIFIER:BROWN:1:BURNT_UMBER:1:CINNAMON:1:COPPER:1:DARK_BROWN:1:DARK_PEACH:1:DARK_TAN:1:ECRU:1:PALE_BROWN:1:PALE_CHESTNUT:1:PALE_PINK:1:PEACH:1:PINK:1:RAW_UMBER:1:SEPIA:1:TAN:1:TAUPE_PALE:1:TAUPE_SANDY:1]
         [TLCM_NOUN:skin:SINGULAR]

      [TISSUE_LAYER_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:WRINKLY:0:0:0:0:0:0:0]
         [APP_MOD_RATE:1:YEARLY:0:100:60:0:NO_END]
         [APP_MOD_NOUN:skin:SINGULAR]
         [APP_MOD_DESC_RANGE:0:0:0:1:25:50]

      Now we do the eyes, using the somewhat clunky eye color patterns.

      [SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:EYE:EYE]
         [TL_COLOR_MODIFIER:IRIS_EYE_AMETHYST:1:IRIS_EYE_AQUAMARINE:1:IRIS_EYE_BRASS:1:IRIS_EYE_BRONZE:1:IRIS_EYE_COBALT:1:IRIS_EYE_COPPER:1:IRIS_EYE_EMERALD:1:IRIS_EYE_GOLD:1:IRIS_EYE_HELIOTROPE:1:IRIS_EYE_JADE:1:IRIS_EYE_OCHRE:1:IRIS_EYE_RAW_UMBER:1:IRIS_EYE_RUST:1:IRIS_EYE_SILVER:1:IRIS_EYE_SLATE_GRAY:1:IRIS_EYE_TURQUOISE:1]
         [TLCM_NOUN:eyes:PLURAL]

this is the interaction, this can be done in lot of different ways

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   [INTERACTION:RAISE_DEAD]      
   [I_SOURCE:DISTURBANCE]
   [I_TARGET:A:CORPSE]
      [IT_LOCATION:CONTEXT_ITEM]
      [IT_FORBIDDEN:NOT_LIVING]
      IT_REQUIRES:CAN_SPEAK
      [IT_REQUIRES:CAN_LEARN]   
      [IT_REQUIRES:FIT_FOR_RESURRECTION]
      [IT_CANNOT_HAVE_SYNDROME_CLASS:WERECURSE]
      [IT_CANNOT_HAVE_SYNDROME_CLASS:VAMPCURSE]
      [IT_CANNOT_HAVE_SYNDROME_CLASS:DISTURBANCE_CURSE]
   [I_EFFECT:RESURRECT]
      [IE_TARGET:A]
      [IE_IMMEDIATE]
      [IE_ARENA_NAME:Disturbed dead]


         [SYNDROME]
         [SYN_CLASS:DISTURBANCE_CURSE]
         [CE_FEEL_EMOTION:EMOTION:THRILL:SEV:75:PROB:100:SIZE_DILUTES:START:10:PEAK:120:END:480:DWF_STRETCH:4]
         [SYN_NAME:GOT RESSURECTED HOT DAMN]
         [CE_ADD_TAG:NOT_LIVING:NOBREATHE]
         [CE_REMOVE_TAG:HAS_BLOOD]   
         [CE_BODY_TRANSFORMATION:PROB:100:START:0:PEAK:10:END:200:ABRUPT:DWF_STRETCH:4]
         [CE:CREATURE:SPIRIT_OF_LIFE:MALE]

if you wonder why there's a creature transform in there its to remove all body damage from resurrected dead dwarfs so there not mutilated when they are resurrected

[joostheger]

Thanks for the suggestions, but iam afraid these also wont work. Vermin apearently is something totally different from other creatures.

Guess i have to kearn dfhack then. Lets go

[aradar]

Thanks for the suggestions, but iam afraid these also wont work. Vermin apearently is something totally different from other creatures.

Guess i have to kearn dfhack then. Lets go

yea it seems that with this game you can do just about anything, except some times it just doesn't happen the way you want it to exactly happen
im sure you can achieve the effect you want, it just wont happen in the exact way you want it to happen

dfhack is prolly the best option if your just wanting to play locally, the idea mod wise not very ideal

[Eric Blank]

Yeah, vermin are effectively a glorified item type with only a few special considerations. Biting, getting gobbled, being caught in traps or by fishermen, being caught by cats and dying in spider webs and eating food left out of barrels/unguarded by cats are really all they do to interact directly with the world.

Dwarves will absolutely be bitten by the critter, but did you write the syndrome so they're an immune creature or class? You could remove the dying after bite part so they last until they encounter a vermin gobbler or cat