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krenshala

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steam: interior well issue
« on: December 21, 2022, 05:36:18 pm »

So, before the steam release I would regularly place a well at the top of a cistern multiple z-levels deep and use it just fine as long as i had a minimum of 8/7 water in the tile below the well itself (regardless of how far down the water was).  However, with the Steam release (0.50.03 at the moment), it is telling me the well is dry despite the fact there is nearly 3 z-levels (21+/7) of water below it.  I think it is due to the fact there are five z-levels of empty space between the well and the water, but was hoping folks here had more/better info on the behavior.
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Re: steam: interior well issue
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2022, 05:51:31 pm »

My wells are working OK. Current one is 20 Z levels down to second cavern layer with several Z levels of air through the caverns before they hit water. (50.03)
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krenshala

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Re: steam: interior well issue
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2022, 06:02:14 pm »

For my current fort, the well itself is at elevation 18 (i dug into the hillside, made a meeting room, and then stair down from there).  I dug down through the (light) aquifer (at elevation 14) and put a cistern below the aquifer elevation 14 down to elevation 9), and currently the water has filled up to elevation 10 (soon to finish filling that z-level and start on elevation 9). Seems I misremembered how full it was when i posted above.  It is only at 11 or 12 of 7 for water depth at the moment.

Before the Steam release, this was sufficient for me to draw water from the well, but this fort claims the well is dry.
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Re: steam: interior well issue
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2022, 06:08:46 pm »

I find it's easier in the graphical version to miss a spot in my well hole while digging through the aquifer and the damp stone is constantly being cancelled. You don't have a blocked level anywhere do you?
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« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2022, 06:15:37 pm »

Nope, that was the first thing I checked, since I've made that mistake before :)

I decided to do some experimenting to see if i can easily figure out the minimum height above water for a well.
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Re: steam: interior well issue
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2022, 09:41:21 pm »

Nope, that was the first thing I checked, since I've made that mistake before :)

I decided to do some experimenting to see if i can easily figure out the minimum height above water for a well.

I've never had trouble with wells before, but mine doesn't work in the premium version either.  2-z level space above a 3-z deep cavern lake, nothing fancy.  I'll try building some more wells and cisterns and see if I can get something working, the mechanics do appear to have changed somehow.

I also need to upgrade to 50.04, it's possible it's no longer an issue.
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Re: steam: interior well issue
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2022, 12:38:46 am »

Hmm. Very strange. Mine have been working in all 50.0x versions so far (I always build a well down to the caverns - there's almost never a time when there are no "air" z-levels to pass through). And I made them the same way I've always made wells. Dig stairs, dig a hole, cover the stairs, put a well on the hole.
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Re: steam: interior well issue
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2022, 10:07:57 pm »

Is this an aquifer-fed cistern where the topmost water tile of the well is adjacent to the aquifer level and hovering at 1/7 water because the new water keeps being absorbed back into the aquifer?
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Re: steam: interior well issue
« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2022, 06:50:20 pm »

50.04.
Made a well on a new embark. Down to the caverns, 17 levels of rock, 12 Z-levels of air between the last rock level and 7/7 water in the cavern.
"The well is operational". I can't see that anything has changed. Wells are working as they always have done for me.
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