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[Frumple]

Yeah, public beta testing for lost land is supposed to start somewhere in the next few days. Beneath the Tides has been planned for... a long time. Trolls, spiders, naga, iirc were the major expansion campaigns I've seen mentioned as planned even before the orc one was released. Beneath the Tides is trolls/naga, spiders hasn't seen much public mention yet, that I've noticed. So there's probably at least two more coming after this next one.

[martinuzz]

I really like T4. The skill trees are deep, well thought out and allow for more than just one optimised build.
It tickles the loot itch just as well as Diablo did.
It always has friendly players online to link that oh-so-not-so-scary-anymore-now unique to that you just debuffed with more debuffs than can fit on the screen and share a giggle with.

Yeah, definitly one of my favourite roguelikes. I go back to it at least once a year and got all the DLC on the 'well-deserved cash for a dev who has been on it for decades' principle (I did play Tome2 too. Also still nice to go back to every once in a while if you can cope with the oldschool UI. And before that, Angband. Originally, the Tome series started as an ZAngband fork IIRC).

[Frumple]

Can't remember if it forked from zangband specifically, but the original incarnation was Pernangband, which switched over to Tolkien theming after mccaffrey started being a jerk about fanworks.

Quick check though, yeah, it was a pern themed zangband fork originally. Played it a ton back in the day, but never did win a run of it. Literally the only angband variant I've scored a victory in, despite probably several hundred hours playing them, was Furyband, which was a ToME2 fork, heh.

[martinuzz]

I never beat Tome2 either. Got close with the (experimental) alchemist class, but gave up because it is such a grind.