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[A_Curious_Cat]

Seeing as I couldn't find anything like this suggestion by searching the forum (searching for "visit", for example, gives multiple pages of result but all but the first are completely blank), I've decided to jot down this suggestion...

I think that it would be a good idea if fortress citizens could travel to different sites and then  -hopefully- return again.

This system would be based on the same system that currently exists to allow you to send the militia out on missions.  One of the primary purposes would be to allow citizens to visit relatives at different sites (which would fulfill the need to see family, etc.).  Additionally, it could be for other reasons such as to visit a religious site, compete in a tournament, or visit a particular library, or to visit a particular guildhall.

The system would be set up in such a way that fortress denizens would petition for permission to go on a journey.  This would include the name(s) of the denizen(s) going on the journey, where they intend to go, the reason for the journey, and (approximately) how long they intend to be gone.  Additionally, there might be significant lead time between the petition and when they actually leave or they might leave immediately (or somewhere in-between). 

Also, there should be various pros and cons to accepting or rejecting such petitions.

Examples of pros could be:

Fulfilling needs.
The denizen could bring back something useful (such as a prize from a tournament or a copy of a book from a library).
They could come back with new or heightened skills.
Possibly other things as well.

Examples of cons could be:
They get captured.
They get killed.
They get robbed.
They return, but with injuries.
And possibly other things as well.

Also, there should be consequences (probably just a bad thought) for denying such a petition.

Additionally there should be a system by which a denizen of the fortress could be forcibly summoned to appear before someone at another site (for example, someone from the mountainhome could show up with a warrant for the arrest of Urist McCriminalMastermind and forcibly take them off the map.)  These should result in an announcement but no petition.  You shouldn't be able to refuse these.

Anyone have any thoughts?

Edit:  Added stuff about guildhalls and skills.  Also added part about consequences for denying petition.

[SixOfSpades]

Hunting / fishing / logging / mining expedition.
Moving the herds to better grazing land for the season. (I don't really see dwarves as nomadic, but maybe your fort has some non-dwarf residents.)
Arranged marriage with a citizen of another site.
Baron(ess) of X leaves to take up residence in X, along with possible retainers.
Touring recruitment drive to drum up conscripts for your militia.
"I want to be buried in Y location."

[A_Curious_Cat]

<snip>

Arranged marriage with a citizen of another site.
Baron(ess) of X leaves to take up residence in X, along with possible retainers.

<snip>

Keep in mind that this is not permanent emigration.  Unless something happens to them while they are gone, you should expect them to return to the fortress.

[Shonai_Dweller]

<snip>

Arranged marriage with a citizen of another site.
Baron(ess) of X leaves to take up residence in X, along with possible retainers.

<snip>

Keep in mind that this is not permanent emigration.  Unless something happens to them while they are gone, you should expect them to return to the fortress.

But should you, really?
I mean, it's good to know if someone intends to leave permanently, and you should be able to prevent them (and put up with all the issues that arise from that) but your outpost doesn't have any kind of magical hold on any of the residents.

[A_Curious_Cat]

<snip>

Arranged marriage with a citizen of another site.
Baron(ess) of X leaves to take up residence in X, along with possible retainers.

<snip>

Keep in mind that this is not permanent emigration.  Unless something happens to them while they are gone, you should expect them to return to the fortress.

But should you, really?
I mean, it's good to know if someone intends to leave permanently, and you should be able to prevent them (and put up with all the issues that arise from that) but your outpost doesn't have any kind of magical hold on any of the residents.

What I mean is that this suggestion is for when a denizen of the fortress leaves with the intention of returning (even if they end up being killed or captured along the way).  Permanent emigration is a matter for another (different) suggestion.

[Starver]

If (pre)arranged marriages even are a thing, cross-settlement at least at their eventual time of their intended fulfillment, the leave taken might be to go and meet the bride/groom with the full intention of the happy couple making the trip back.

(It'd be a particularly equinimical practice, compared to just one party travelling to a possibly strange place, to all-but commit to staying there even before a ceremony is performed. It seems the more Dorfy option.)

Of course, any number of reasons could prevent the return of the local, with spouse. Including deciding the household likes it better overvthete, anyway. Or, if the Arrangement breaks down before formally tied, still the individual might find the place not intollerable. And departing for whatever reason could find a(nother) soul-mate at the remote site, to add to the fail-to-return reasons.



(The Baroness could be making a statutory visit to her official Seat, despite her residency. Maybe not just a single Seat but a Royal Progress of sorts, to see her various outposts even if she considers your Fortress her home. Until she decides she likes the apartments in MarbleHalls, The Fortress Of Matched Preferences better.)



On the basic idea, more non-combat 'raid' visits, for single or grouped residents, might be good. And at least the desire to do this would be interesting,  rather than make it an Overseer decision completely.

[Bumber]

They could visit family if they've been away from family for too long.

[A_Curious_Cat]

@Starver:

Those are very good points.  The main thing is that, when they leave, they intend to return.  This intention is, of course, subject to change while they are away.

Also, I wonder if there could be a way such that, instead of making a petition, they could simply state their intention to leave (this would be done a certain amount of time beforehand) and then simply leave unless you explicitly forbid them from leaving.

@bumber:

That's already included in the suggestion and is actually the main thing I had in mind when I made the suggestion.

Also, it would be nice if family from other places would come and visit their relatives in your fortress (but that's a different suggestion).

[FantasticDorf]

I think it could be a real sweet to train up my dwarves especially to just compete in certain events, in vein of the suggestion in starving off some needs also or send them into town to make some friends at a local bar, relax, ask some rumors and get drawn into a plot to murder your baron.

A little notice of things happening and who's won what would add some context to the world and make it seem that dwarves aren't doing nothing all the time when in actuality there's plenty of things happening maybe once a year (which seems like a lot in the span of legends mode) for you to send your brightest and best.

I can think of some trinkets they could possibly win from such endevours, little gold figurine of themselves winning the event, maybe a book, a blessing of skillroll good luck from a procession and meet some people like the civ-leader along the way.

[A_Curious_Cat]

I just realized something:

What if one of your dwarves wants to go adventuring?

[Azerty]

I could see fortress rulers banning specific persons such as civil servants, major craftsmen and soldiers from leaving.

I just realized something:

What if one of your dwarves wants to go adventuring?

Urist McBilbo wants to leave the fortress.