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Afghani84

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Dwarven child care 2020
« on: May 27, 2020, 01:42:45 pm »

I just found this almost 10y old thread and am disgustingly pleased with all the good !!SCIENCE!! it provided back then:
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=91093.0

Since the game has drastically changed in the past 10 years, I wanted to check what people nowadays are doing to harden/skill up their offspring before they turn 12. I know that they can help with farming but I am more interested in skills that would make them good military candidates, such as dodger/fighter/biter/wrestler or attribute gains in strength/agility/toughness etc.

Is the idea of pitting them with animals still feasible? Has anyone some recent experience on this topic?
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Re: Dwarven child care 2020
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2020, 07:52:21 pm »

Raids are so efficient in training military that skills like that are probably not worth it any more. However, you probably still want to harden up their personality, getting them used to tragedy/etc.
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Re: Dwarven child care 2020
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2020, 01:04:08 am »

Can children learn from guild demonstrations?
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« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2020, 03:15:55 am »

Okay here's an idea. The biggest problem I hear about these days is dwarves going insane from body parts and rain. So why not employ dwarven child care to weed out the mentally unfit early on and train their discipline? Lock up your toddlers in an open air facility, with loads of decayed body parts and skeletons to play with. If they survive, cleaning up after a battle is nothing.
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« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2020, 03:41:15 am »

Okay here's an idea. The biggest problem I hear about these days is dwarves going insane from body parts and rain. So why not employ dwarven child care to weed out the mentally unfit early on and train their discipline? Lock up your toddlers in an open air facility, with loads of decayed body parts and skeletons to play with. If they survive, cleaning up after a battle is nothing.
In 10 years, by which time the rest of the fortress are stressed from insane children tantruming and killing themselves...
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« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2020, 06:05:44 am »

In 10 years, by which time the rest of the fortress are stressed from insane children tantruming and killing themselves...

They don't need to know about the tantrums.
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« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2020, 06:43:47 am »

In 10 years, by which time the rest of the fortress are stressed from insane children tantruming and killing themselves...

They don't need to know about the tantrums.
This! The only real connection these children have before being isolated is to their parents. In case of death, it surely generates additional stress for them but that could be counteracted by making the parents extra comfortable with a bit of micromanagement and lots of downtime. The real question should be whether the ordeal provides a benefit for the fortress in terms of fighting power once they reach adulthood.
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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2020, 09:21:03 am »

Can children learn from guild demonstrations?
Yes. I have an 11-year-old who's an adequate suturer.
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« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2020, 09:50:23 am »

Yes. I have an 11-year-old who's an adequate suturer.

So they can be taught:
  • Miner (weapon skill)
  • Ambusher
  • Archer?
  • Siege Operator
Observer can be trained by watching other dwarves spar.

Might be worth throwing in Weaponsmith for moods if leaving out Miner.

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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2020, 03:35:23 pm »

Can children learn from guild demonstrations?
Yes. I have an 11-year-old who's an adequate suturer.

And here I was trying to build a dwarven daycare, filled with gem encrusted toys , booze and food. If children do respect burrows, new daycare will be all the guildhalls, areas connecting guild halls and the bedroom layer. Booze, food and goblets are already present.

Guess, I'll also stop working on the giant vulture petting zoo as well.
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