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HrumpfOfDoom

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(Giant) Cave Spider Silk
« on: March 02, 2020, 11:52:07 am »

Is there an easy way too convince my dwarfs to only gather giant cave spider silk, and ignore the regular kind? I caught a GCS and made a silk farm, but they little dorks ignore that silk half the time and go after the regular stuff in the cavern. I would just wall off the caverns, but I like the fishing access.
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Re: (Giant) Cave Spider Silk
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2020, 12:53:55 pm »

I think you can use a burrow that includes your silk farm and loom (and any thread stockpiles.) There's an option somewhere in the burrow screen to restrict workshops to items within the burrow.
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Re: (Giant) Cave Spider Silk
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2020, 01:28:19 pm »

Is there a way to do it without burrows? I'm on my 20th fort or so, and I still haven't really used them, as they just don't click in my mind yet. If that is the only way, then I guess I'll learn. I hope there are other options, though.
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Re: (Giant) Cave Spider Silk
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2020, 01:55:41 pm »

Is there a way to do it without burrows? I'm on my 20th fort or so, and I still haven't really used them, as they just don't click in my mind yet. If that is the only way, then I guess I'll learn. I hope there are other options, though.

Burrows are simply zone restrictions, if you have played Rimworld they work the same way.
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Re: (Giant) Cave Spider Silk
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2020, 02:20:25 pm »

Is there a way to do it without burrows?

There might be a way to do it with DFHack's workflow and job-material plugins, but other than that, no.

You can check for available GCS webs using work orders, but the "collect webs" job doesn't let you specify the type of web.
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Re: (Giant) Cave Spider Silk
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2020, 02:57:53 pm »

I only would need the loom collecting the thread in the burrow with the GCS farm, yes? Another loom could be set to weave GCS cloth outside of the loom?
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Re: (Giant) Cave Spider Silk
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2020, 05:26:22 pm »

You can micromanage it by forbidding all the cave spider webs on the map.
Takes regular maintenance though because cave spiders will keep making more webs.

EDIT: the 'easy way' in your case, since I understand you just want to keep your dwarves from collecting webs from the caves, is to periodically use a designate (F)orbid over your cave levels.
This will also forbid other items on the floor in the caves, but your dwarves will still be able to fish
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Re: (Giant) Cave Spider Silk
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2020, 10:31:19 pm »

If you go the forbid route, you can also periodically forbid all regular spider silk thread from the stocks screen.
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Re: (Giant) Cave Spider Silk
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2020, 12:58:52 am »

I only would need the loom collecting the thread in the burrow with the GCS farm, yes? Another loom could be set to weave GCS cloth outside of the loom?

Yeah. You'd need to disable auto-gather webs (from the standing orders menu) and create a work order to gather webs from the collecting loom's profile, otherwise you'll end up with gather web jobs on your main loom (leading to the collection of regular webs.)
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Re: (Giant) Cave Spider Silk
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2020, 10:04:09 am »

On a semi related note, the 10,000 uncollected webs are starting too effect my FPS. is their a script/trick to deal with this? Maybe something that removes the oldest webs first, or limits how many appear (like the seed limits). I am not familiar with lua or how to script, or I would write one.
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Re: (Giant) Cave Spider Silk
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2020, 11:04:59 am »

On a semi related note, the 10,000 uncollected webs are starting too effect my FPS. is their a script/trick to deal with this? Maybe something that removes the oldest webs first, or limits how many appear (like the seed limits). I am not familiar with lua or how to script, or I would write one.

I've used the following script. Note that it will remove ALL webs, so it's not compatible with actively running web processing at the moment.

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Re: (Giant) Cave Spider Silk
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2020, 11:46:55 am »

That worked great, thank you. If I need silk later, besides my GCS farm, more will show up. But right now I was never going to get to it all. Removing it all as needed will do. I wish it decayed liked seeds do, but the script is a nice fix.
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Re: (Giant) Cave Spider Silk
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2020, 01:45:17 pm »

I gained about 5 FPS from sub 20 when I used the script the first time, in a several decades old fortress. Later usages resulted in a smaller gain, barely visible, but still.
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Re: (Giant) Cave Spider Silk
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2020, 12:50:48 pm »

Both of the caverns I have breached are mostly big empty spaces. That adds up to a ton of uncollected webs.
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