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Adventurer is using unarmed attacks instead of equipped weapon?
« on: February 05, 2020, 05:47:09 pm »

I loaded up 47.01 and started an Adventurer. My Saltwater Crocodile man is very rarely using his equipped weapon, and I don't think he's used his shield to attack.

It works fine if I manually use it, but it's rarely selected when I just walk into the enemy. I change preferred attack to strike and nothing changed. I tried against animals and most recently against many undead animals, so I'd think no quarter would be implied?

He has an iron two handed sword in his right hand and an iron shield in his left. This worked in prior versions. I thought maybe like the armor, the weapon was perhaps being scaled up somehow, but even dropping the shield and using just the sword doesn't result in anything different.

Any ideas?
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Re: Adventurer is using unarmed attacks instead of equipped weapon?
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2020, 11:51:14 am »

I loaded up 47.01 and started an Adventurer. My Saltwater Crocodile man is very rarely using his equipped weapon, and I don't think he's used his shield to attack.

It works fine if I manually use it, but it's rarely selected when I just walk into the enemy. I change preferred attack to strike and nothing changed. I tried against animals and most recently against many undead animals, so I'd think no quarter would be implied?

He has an iron two handed sword in his right hand and an iron shield in his left. This worked in prior versions. I thought maybe like the armor, the weapon was perhaps being scaled up somehow, but even dropping the shield and using just the sword doesn't result in anything different.

Any ideas?

Make sure you press q to unsheath your weapons.

Also, Striking is kicking and punching im pretty sure so setting it to strike probably caused issues.

Also, if unsheathing doesn't work i would report it on the bug tracker.
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Re: Adventurer is using unarmed attacks instead of equipped weapon?
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2020, 03:57:03 pm »

Also, Striking is kicking and punching im pretty sure so setting it to strike probably caused issues.

I think setting it to striking just prevents charging at the enemy.
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Re: Adventurer is using unarmed attacks instead of equipped weapon?
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2020, 06:37:00 pm »

I hardly ever don't aim my attacks, so I don't know what is usual.

I'm curious what his relevant combat skills are. Does it pick an attack based on skill?
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Re: Adventurer is using unarmed attacks instead of equipped weapon?
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2020, 09:22:47 pm »

I did unsheath the weapons. The combat skills thing might be it, maybe it always selects what is most likely to hit and not what is most effective, and his swordskill is lower than his striking and biting.

As for not aiming, I usually do to, unless I know the enemy is very trivial.



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Re: Adventurer is using unarmed attacks instead of equipped weapon?
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2020, 11:47:35 am »

I also noticed this problem in 47.03.

But making a reproducable case was too hard considering everything just run away from you in those versions of DF.
So i used tokens to force animals to want to murder your character, this allowed to recreate an always reproducable case

And normal attacks (not aimed one) will indeed only have your character punch/kick/scratch instead of using his weapon in hand (weapon in hand having his highest skill too) when fighting animals. I noticed what could be the reason and reported it as a bug on mantis : the conflict is set to "Brawl" instead of the expected lethal.
https://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=11381

Something completely wrong considering the tokens used (crazed for berserking the animal, opposed to life so it's murder only, no fear so no emotion break the animal to make him want to run away in fight).
This wrong level of conflict would then explain a lot of bizarre oddity i saw in fights.
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