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Author Topic: GYM. Individual combat drill & sparing for civilians without squad assignment.  (Read 810 times)

Sarmatian123

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Recent psycho system introduction put a strain on need for endless squads for civilians to get their individual combat drill and sparing emotional satisfactions. Squads are 10 Dwarves large and civilian population tends to be in fortress about 100+. This creates many issues and forces players to form excessive number of wrestler squads just to fill the idiotic emotional requirement put by psycho system. How about:

1. Create new location alike temple one for Gym, which will work like barracks for civilians, so they can drill & spar with each other.
2. Create option in already existing barracks to allow squadless civies in, so they can drill & spar with each other.

This is just one of many more steps required to make DF playable for many DF players after psycho system introduction in 0.44.11. Because right now in 0.44.12 DF is pretty much boycotted by many old and experienced players, who believe psycho system to be unbalanced and impossible to handle in fortress mode. Even on Twitch folks almost stopped streaming DF, with exception of few brave but green new players. Many old players believe Dwarf Fortress is currently unplayable, so lets make it playable again for them. Gym fix will cover 2 emotional needs of Dwarves to fight and to military drill and make the game more manageable, because once Dwarf hits depression, it will force idle Dwarf not only from performing a job, but also from satisfying needs, which makes depression a slowly spiraling down emotional issue without another cure but... atom smasher.
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Part of the issue is compounded by unavoidable stuff depending on the play style. Unless you treat the outdoors as poison or exclusively use magma traps, dismembered enemies and rain are unavoidable for instance (though you can turn the sources of these off, not everyone wants or is willing to do so.) But that's neither here nor there.

Some get around the issue of martial prowess needs with marksdwarves, but to maintain huge numbers of marksdwarves, a segment of the population (be it weaponsmiths and wood burners/furnace operators if lacking magma or craftsmen,) has to be dedicated to making nothing but ammunition for everyone else to train with, never mind fight with.

This also will bring to mind access to weaponry at minimum, though that can be handled with simply having dwarves get weapons from the stockpiles and returning them when they're done (much like children do with toys, and drinkers do with goblets if the tavern's stock of them is filled,) preventing issues concerning that, and if there are none, they can still practice wrestling.

However, I give this my +1

This solves a major issue civs like dwarves and some humans have, makes use of existing systems, and wouldn't be very intrusive.

Dwarves using a gym from an active barracks can also watch sparring matches between soldiers as a mood boosters (Urist was delighted after watching a sparring match,) with less combative sorts possibly not enjoying seeing such things - someone who finds skill with weapons and fighting distasteful for instance, won't have a martial prowess-based need, and won't like seeing sparring matches (Bomrek was annoyed after watching a sparring match.)

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A Gym could tie Into certain temples. Possibly a way to distribute Special fighting Styles when that shows Up...

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