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DakkaDakka

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Justice
« on: July 22, 2018, 10:16:03 am »

Discovered the Justice system. You should have seen it when I appointed my first sheriff. Nothing got done for a month and there was a pilgrimage of dorfs reporting crimes.

A few questions.



Is Justice always a manual process? If it is, is there a way to filter witnessed crimes against those with no witnesses? Is the order arbitrary?

Does "Judge of Intent" mean anything when sentencing a dwarf?

Do miscarriages of justice have positive effects for the offended party if they did not witness the crime? And what happens when I sentence a Yak Bull to a beating for destroying a building?

Is there a penalty for a crime not being punished?

And what is a cold case?


Thanks for your help.
« Last Edit: July 22, 2018, 03:13:44 pm by DakkaDakka »
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PatrikLundell

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Re: Justice
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2018, 02:26:37 am »

I make sure never to turn the injustice system on, as I don't like to have random dorfs murdered for impossible mandates not being met. Thus, I can't answer most of the questions.

A "cold case" is a term for criminal investigations that petered out without being solved. In the real world, cold cases can sometimes be solved when new technology is invented (the introduction of DNA matching allowed a number of cold cases to be revisited and solved, for instance), and occasionally through the late life confession of a criminal.
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Re: Justice
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2018, 03:25:07 am »

However even if cold case make a super name for a contemporary judicial serie meant to find employment to old actors, cold cases usually fall under prescription laws which prevents their authors for being condamned even if found guilty.

That said to answer the question : when justice is carried out, the bad thought of the crime is lessened, and when it is carried out well (sentence not reduced due to lack of prison etc.), the victim gets a good thought.

If only the beatings werent so lethal, the justice system would be a-ok
« Last Edit: July 23, 2018, 03:41:32 am by Cathar »
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Re: Justice
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2018, 06:10:20 am »

Give your home guard and hammerer wooden crossbows they always carry, they give out beatings with those and it's pretty weaksauce, helps keep the doctors happy and hardly any dorfs suffocate from broken necks.

Anyway.

Conviction is always manual, keep you busy during a tantrum spiral, back up to seven pages of recent convictions in my current fort.

No idea how sentencing works, but dorfs dislike being caged more than being chained, and you can give them a little happiness when chained with surrounding furniture and stuff. Have lots and lots and lots of chains, suggested amount of 1/4 dorfs probably won't fill up.

Something that can happen, is if the sole witness is a good liar, he might be the actual criminal, vampires will try it out, but often dorfs commit multiple offenses one after the other, and it's just the same guy on a tantrum, so normally don't worry about it. Sherrif will never report himself, so if you have lots of crimes with no reports, it's totally the Sherrif.

miscarriage of justice, I hear gives everyone in the fort a small bad thought, but I am yet to hit it, they're not that sneaky, I can just about always pick the crim from no witnesses, there are combat reports after all.

The penalty for no justice is the guy who got beat up or whatever has quite a lot of bad thoughts because of getting beat up, and justice counter-acts that for them and gives them and all their family and friends get a strong good thought. It's a very big deal to get a murderer convicted because their whole family and possibly chains of friends may go insane if you don't, as one going tends to take the rest.

Reports are in order of the date the crime was committed, top are oldest, and adjacent are often the same dorf.

Cold cases are just really old crimes.
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