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[se05239]

Interspecies relationships. I think it'd definitely add a bit of flavor if a Dwarf would end up being hit by cupid's arrow while socializing with members of other species.
Imagine a Dwarf getting it together with an elf.

Anyway.
It should definitely be impossible for this odd couple to produce offspring. And if one of the lovebirds are a visitor then that one should move in and be granted citizenship, complete with labors and stuff.

[GoblinCookie]

There is no real reason to implement this until we have interbreeding between races and criteria for deciding what creatures can or cannot interbreed.  As per the idea itself it creates a problem when we end up with species that are a lot more different than elves and dwarves are, we start needing to adjust probability of romance breaking out by the differentness of the creatures in question, so that elf+dwarf is more likely than dwarf+bizzare tentacle monster I just modded in. 

[se05239]

There is no real reason to implement this until we have interbreeding between races and criteria for deciding what creatures can or cannot interbreed.  As per the idea itself it creates a problem when we end up with species that are a lot more different than elves and dwarves are, we start needing to adjust probability of romance breaking out by the differentness of the creatures in question, so that elf+dwarf is more likely than dwarf+bizzare tentacle monster I just modded in.

Interbreeding. Dear god. THE HORROR.

[GoblinCookie]

Interbreeding. Dear god. THE HORROR.

It is indeed a quite massive horror, the devs are quite positively terrified of it and with good reason.   

[Shonai_Dweller]

Interbreeding. Dear god. THE HORROR.

It is indeed a quite massive horror, the devs are quite positively terrified of it and with good reason.   

Very difficult yes, but they also wrote a story specifically about it, so it's something they want to do. Not sure where you get "terrified" from.

[vjmdhzgr]

It's already planned. Toady will get to it eventually, his main issue is just that it's kind of hard to generate crossbreeds automatically with all the ways creatures can be laid out.

[Egan_BW]

so that elf+dwarf is more likely than dwarf+bizzare tentacle monster I just modded in.

I think if you just modded in a bizzare tentacle monster this is probably the opposite of what you want.

On the topic of the thread, nice title. A suggestion is what every thread on this subboard is about. Be a bit more specific, maybe?

[KittyTac]

so that elf+dwarf is more likely than dwarf+bizzare tentacle monster I just modded in.

I think if you just modded in a bizzare tentacle monster this is probably the opposite of what you want.

On the topic of the thread, nice title. A suggestion is what every thread on this subboard is about. Be a bit more specific, maybe?

It's a subtler form of clickbait

[IndigoFenix]

There is no real reason to implement this until we have interbreeding between races and criteria for deciding what creatures can or cannot interbreed.

To be fair, by that same logic there was no reason to implement homosexuality, and yet Toady did it anyway.

[Shonai_Dweller]

There is no real reason to implement this until we have interbreeding between races and criteria for deciding what creatures can or cannot interbreed.

To be fair, by that same logic there was no reason to implement homosexuality, and yet Toady did it anyway.

The half-elf is common throughout fantasy literature. That's reason enough to include it. The chance to build a raw generation tool to produce several generations of mixed species creature raws sure sounds like a fun challenge too.

[Urlance Woolsbane]

There is no real reason to implement this until we have interbreeding between races and criteria for deciding what creatures can or cannot interbreed.

To be fair, by that same logic there was no reason to implement homosexuality, and yet Toady did it anyway.

The half-elf is common throughout fantasy literature. That's reason enough to include it. The chance to build a raw generation tool to produce several generations of mixed species creature raws sure sounds like a fun challenge too.

It also overlaps nicely with the plans for artificial creatures, such as golems, automatons, and magically created species. There were even going to be Frankenstein's Monster-style hybrids at one point, though those may have fallen by the wayside.

[GoblinCookie]

Very difficult yes, but they also wrote a story specifically about it, so it's something they want to do. Not sure where you get "terrified" from.

The difficulty part, which is based upon things they have said before. 

The half-elf is common throughout fantasy literature. That's reason enough to include it. The chance to build a raw generation tool to produce several generations of mixed species creature raws sure sounds like a fun challenge too.

The half-elf is also extremely easy to implement since elves and humans are at a physical level always depicted in fantasy as essentially identical.  The problem as above mentioned is not when it is dwarves+elves but when it is dwarves+bizzare-tentacle-monster I just modded in.  We want the former to be able to reproduce together, the latter we both do not want interbreeding but will be unable to actually make work anyway. 

To be fair, by that same logic there was no reason to implement homosexuality, and yet Toady did it anyway.

Homosexuality exists in real-life and it's absence is more likely to cause controversy than it's presence in the present order of things.  There is no real reason to add in cross-species romances before we add in the reproduction because the same basic criteria are involved there as in reproduction (creatures are more likely to be attracted to things they can reproduce with than things they cannot).  It also messes up the game because of all the historical creatures forming sterile marriages reducing the birth rate in worlds where the ratio of sites to historical characters is high.