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Foxite

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Human squad members are fighting
« on: April 25, 2017, 12:29:51 pm »
So I got these two mercenaries that should be sparring, but rather they are fighting, seemingly non-lethal.

Why? How do I stop them?

Update: They're now fighting lethally. I'm letting them fight this out and executing the victor.

Update two: I managed to seperate them by stationing both of them away from each other; they're now in the hospital... right next to each other.

Update three: After examining the gamelog, it seems one of the combatants got angry over being in an argument with the other. This would have been understandable for goblins, but I haven't seen that before in humans.
« Last Edit: April 25, 2017, 12:39:57 pm by latias1290 »
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Re: Human squad members are fighting
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2017, 04:59:31 pm »
Humans have no defined ranges for personalities in the raws, so the default 0 to 100, with 50 as the midpoint, values are used. You just happened to get a particularly violent human.
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Re: Human squad members are fighting
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2017, 10:02:19 pm »
Even dwarves argue and fight each other at times, especially at the tavern. It's just that goblins are more likely to as their values are weighted more towards arguing, fighting and trouble-making.

Humans arguing and killing each other shouldn't be a surprise. Don't you watch the news?
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Foxite

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Re: Human squad members are fighting
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2017, 03:07:09 am »
The wiki mentions that Goblin ethics dictate that arguments escalate into lethal fights. If a Goblin started an argument, he would start fighting - dwarves argue all the time, I noticed that too, as I constantly see combat reports of random dwarves becoming enraged. I haven't seen them actually fighting over it, though.
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Re: Human squad members are fighting
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2017, 03:38:24 am »
Ethics aren't values. Ethics are specifically civ related. Your goblins aren't goblin civ goblins.

I've seen dorfs (at non-lethal stress levels) fight and injure one another after arguing. Doesn't happen often, and generally doesn't escalate to lethal levels.
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Re: Human squad members are fighting
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2017, 04:29:21 am »
I've seen my king kill one of his sunjects in an argument, crushed his skull with the bull totem he was carrying.
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Re: Human squad members are fighting
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2017, 11:04:38 am »
If they insist on acting like children, treat them as such. Keep them separated?
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Re: Human squad members are fighting
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2017, 11:26:45 pm »
Quote from: Skorpion on April 26, 2017, 11:04:38 am
If they insist on acting like children, treat them as such. Keep them separated?

Strip them naked and have them wrestle each other in the arena.
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