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Kebra

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Identifying why no dwarven caravans arrive
« on: April 26, 2016, 08:30:54 am »

In year 258 the liason visited me. We drafted an export agreement and the fortress was upgraded to a barony.

The traders never setup show though. One merchant kept walking around (topside, within the walls of my fortress) and they eventually left.

It's now year 261 and autumn just ended. No liasons and no caravans in three years.

I think i read somewhere that it might be caused by a siege on the kings home. But how do i identify this is the case and that it's not my fortress that is bugged?
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PatrikLundell

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Re: Identifying why no dwarven caravans arrive
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2016, 09:59:56 am »

I don't think the reasons for non showing caravans are fully known. Sieges are speculated as causes.
You might be able to get some info out of Legends:
If using LNP (or its relevant parts):
- Use "quicksave" from the DFHack console to save the game.
- Use "open-legends" from DFHack to enter Legends Mode.
- Use "exportlegends info" from DFHack to export legends mode info.
- KILL DF (NOT exit, but kill from the manager (if using Windows). Saving can/will cause save corruption that hits a fair while later).
- Start Legends Viewer and import the main .XML file generated above. It is located in the main DF directory (below the LNP one, if using LNP).
- Locate your civ and the mountainhome and see what's happened there.

It's not unheard of that caravans go missing for several years and then return as sudden as they appeared.

The 258 event sounds like you didn't have a trade depot, for the traders to trade in, or possibly that it wasn't accessible. Alternatively, traders were spooked by seeing parts of "goblin" (like broken elven teeth) lying around and bolted (they're easier to scare than horses).

Edit:
If not using LNP you can achieve the same thing by saving, copying the save, start the copy and retire the fortress, and then enter legends mode to look around. I assume you can find the info there, rather than exporting it for external viewing.
« Last Edit: April 26, 2016, 10:02:13 am by PatrikLundell »
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ragincajun

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Re: Identifying why no dwarven caravans arrive
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2016, 10:38:42 am »

There has also been incidents with recent versions with the caravans being invisible.  The caravan contact shows up, you get a "caravan arrival" notice but they never show up on the map.  Then, later you get the "caravan departing" notice.
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