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Darktongue Breakbone

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For those who love obsidian swords.
« on: December 13, 2007, 10:43:00 pm »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macuahuitl

This is what one looks like apparently.  Those Aztecs are something else.  I wonder if this is what the obsidian sword in the game is supposed to look like.

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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2007, 10:45:00 pm »

Yeah, most of us have known this for awhile.  Learn something new everyday, though, eh?
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Re: For those who love obsidian swords.
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2007, 11:00:00 pm »

There are people who make knife blades out of solid sapphire using a similar chipping process. I forgot what the method is called but it was something like "crimming".

Apparantly one such mastercraftsman made a scalpel for a doctor who then went on to do an operation on the guy with it. Some chipped stones are orders of magnitude sharper than surgical stainless steel.

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Re: For those who love obsidian swords.
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2007, 11:02:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by Tamren:
<STRONG> "crimming".</STRONG>


Flint napping.

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« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2007, 11:24:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by Torak:
<STRONG>Flint napping.</STRONG>

Flintknapping.
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« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2007, 01:39:00 am »

Pffft, drunks around the world do it every night and they don't even need obsidian or special techniques.
Good thing dwarves consume their drinks from barrels, and not from glass bottles.
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« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2007, 11:23:00 am »

quote:
Originally posted by Scorpios:
<STRONG>
Flintknapping.</STRONG>

Ah thats its. All I could remember was the "K" and the "ing"

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« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2007, 02:38:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by AlienChickenPie:
<STRONG>Pffft, drunks around the world do it every night and they don't even need obsidian or special techniques.
Good thing dwarves consume their drinks from barrels, and not from glass bottles.</STRONG>

Yes, but how long do such knives last? Blades made from obsidian or gemstones are far more durable than a XXgreen glass bottleXX.

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« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2007, 04:03:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by Tamren:
<STRONG> Some chipped stones are orders of magnitude sharper than surgical stainless steel.</STRONG>


Yeah, we're talking mono-molecular edge, iirc.


Only problem is they're brittle, so applications are limited.

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« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2007, 05:50:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by Alfador:
<STRONG>

Yes, but how long do such knives last? Blades made from obsidian or gemstones are far more durable than a XXgreen glass bottleXX.</STRONG>



If it's generally short, and only used for stabbing, a three-four inch obsidian knife could last you a very long time.

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Re: For those who love obsidian swords.
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2007, 07:21:00 pm »

What if we had obsidian and flint arrows/bolts? Or obsidian daggers (flint maybe? I don't know much about flint)?
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« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2007, 08:21:00 pm »

I slightly tweaked the raws so I could get obsidian spears.  I've been planning for my "Aztec Dwarves" expedition.

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« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2007, 02:42:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by Torak:
<STRONG>


If it's generally short, and only used for stabbing, a three-four inch obsidian knife could last you a very long time.</STRONG>


That's exactly what I'm saying: small obsidian scalpels will last a lot longer than a jagged broken bottle used as a makeshift weapon.

On the other hand, that could well be relevant to Dwarf Fortress: If your fortress churns out glass bottles, they could be similar to the waterskin code except that they'd store booze and be used by civilians. Metal flasks could be used similarly, but... When a civilian is ambushed or goes nuts and starts attacking other dwarves, he/she could use the bottle as an impromptu weapon. *crack* *shiv* >:D

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« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2007, 09:08:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by Kagus:
<STRONG>I slightly tweaked the raws so I could get obsidian spears.  I've been planning for my "Aztec Dwarves" expedition.</STRONG>

Hmm... Is it possible to make an atlatl that use spears as ammo?

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