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[Williham]

So let me set the stage:

I set up a library, produced a couple of hundred hemp quires, and everything is going gangbusters, right?

Wrong. Some 110 tomes in, the scholars just ... stopped writing. Scribes stopped copying. The library is at a standstill.

Scholars are still pondering and discussing and researching and whatever else, but no writing is taking place.

Does anyone have similar experiences, and/or potential fixes?

Edit: Library is, following occasional forbid/unpause/reclaim cycles, producing once more. Yay!

[Admiral Obvious]

You have enough bookshelves for everything? I think the cap for books is about 10 to a bookshelf.

[Williham]

You have enough bookshelves for everything? I think the cap for books is about 10 to a bookshelf.

I have 110 books and 36 bookshelves, so I think I should be good. But the same thought occurred to me, so I had another 18 put in.

Let's watch and see if that helps.

[FantasticDorf]

Try forbidding all your current books.

Maybe without people guests stealing them you have too many. Once forbidden and dumped you could try moving them around or make a new linked library area/alternatively sell the least valuable or worst ones on)

[Williham]

I tore down the library entirely and made a new location. Soon as I did, work resumed.

Odd thing, but there it is.

Also, a bookcase appears to fit 100 books, not 10, so that's ... a lot.

[Williham]

I tore down the library entirely and made a new location. Soon as I did, work resumed.

For about 5 minutes. 

The Scribes copied two books and called it a day. Work stalled again.

[FantasticDorf]

I tore down the library entirely and made a new location. Soon as I did, work resumed.

For about 5 minutes. 

The Scribes copied two books and called it a day. Work stalled again.

You say your scribes are jotting it all down. Do your scholars actually have enough materials to produce new work? If all your paper is being routed to your scribes (via them claiming to use it, a lot like bins and barrels about to go out to a place or be used), thats probably a good reason why you're being left high and dry.

[Williham]

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You say your scribes are jotting it all down. Do your scholars actually have enough materials to produce new work? If all your paper is being routed to your scribes (via them claiming to use it, a lot like bins and barrels about to go out to a place or be used), thats probably a good reason why you're being left high and dry.

I have paper like you would not believe.

I said a couple of hundred quires, right? But really, I have 490 stored (well, 488 after the scribes copied two more books); 50 of which are in the library.

[Williham]

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You say your scribes are jotting it all down. Do your scholars actually have enough materials to produce new work? If all your paper is being routed to your scribes (via them claiming to use it, a lot like bins and barrels about to go out to a place or be used), thats probably a good reason why you're being left high and dry.

I have paper like you would not believe.

I said a couple of hundred quires, right? But really, I have 490 stored (well, 488 after the scribes copied two more books); 50 of which are in the library.

And finally a scholar got on and wrote a new book. The scribes aren't exactly rushing to copy it, but hey, at least there's some kind of production going on.

[NJW2000]

Sorry if I'm being a patronising arse (haven't even set up my own library yet, let alone one of the Babylonian proportions you have), but have you checked the FPS?

I mean, it could have dropped a huge amount by a few caravans deciding to leave via the caverns through the paths of 300 visitors, all of whom suddenly want to go somewhere else, while every pet in the fort goes for a closed door. This would create the illusion of slow work.

Very unlikely, grasping at straws really, but this is a tough problem, it appears

[Williham]

Sorry if I'm being a patronising arse (haven't even set up my own library yet, let alone one of the Babylonian proportions you have), but have you checked the FPS?

I mean, it could have dropped a huge amount by a few caravans deciding to leave via the caverns through the paths of 300 visitors, all of whom suddenly want to go somewhere else, while every pet in the fort goes for a closed door. This would create the illusion of slow work.

Very unlikely, grasping at straws really, but this is a tough problem, it appears

Good thought, but no.

FPS is around ~100, and in any case; the statistics speak for themselves: 12 years into the fort, the rate of production has been about 5 books per season, on average. (Copies and everything included.) Now, books haven't really been produced for almost two years, except for the three that were made shortly after re-designating the entire library.

[Williham]

Part of the problem, at least with the scribes, appears to be stale job designations holding the items and preventing their use.

Forbidding everything in the library and then unpausing and unforbidding it, flushing all jobs, does the trick, for a while.

[PatrikLundell]

There's also a bug causing "store in location" jobs for the books already stored in the book shelves. This causes a constant stream of dorfs to run up to touch a book, run away 10 steps, run back to touch another book (I assume it's a different one), etc. This has cause me to forbid all books except the newest ones, so they'll actually do some socializing to find a mate with whom the world can be repopulated with dorfs.

[Williham]

Okay, so a cycle every now and then of forbid/unpause/claim does the trick. It seems stale activities are to blame.

In fact, doing that every now and then, now one of my scholars discovered Mineral Remedies! So finally it works.