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Re: Arms Race - 1784: Dunwich Meritocratic Confederacy Design Phase
« Reply #150 on: February 18, 2016, 01:39:03 pm »
Why should we care much about preventing further landing when they landed already?

Besides control over seas gives real benefits, while control over land gives nothing
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« Reply #151 on: February 18, 2016, 01:48:07 pm »
Because cutting reinforcement is a prerequisite to kick them back into the sea?
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« Reply #152 on: February 18, 2016, 05:48:47 pm »
Quote from: Baffler on February 18, 2016, 01:14:36 pm
A revision could get us a big Van Karsten gun that could fill the role though, and we really need our own blue water navy.

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Do we? Gunboats could be a cheaper way to deny them landing, which is the real priority.
We do need a cheap gunship, what about useing a single long barreled chaser cannon on fast ships?.
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Agree, plus that's about the LAST thing *I* want to see from this kind of game - author spending valuable development time on useless graphics.

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Re: Arms Race - 1784: Dunwich Meritocratic Confederacy Design Phase
« Reply #153 on: February 18, 2016, 09:23:04 pm »
My design is a cheap gunship
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« Reply #154 on: February 18, 2016, 09:55:36 pm »
You never explained how it could turn its guns. I mean, sure, they are presumably on wheels or something, but you have cramped quarters and such... mine has that rudimentary turret thing...

Also, I am a big supporter of a better artillery piece, ideally designed for naval warfare, so a heavy focus on range, penetration, and accuracy, as opposed to the traditional needs of artillery that are more inclined for hitting a planet-sized target and splashing lots of bits around. As it would be great for a proper warship in the future. But I am leaning towards needing a coastal skirmisher now to keep them from safely supplying their invasion.
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Re: Arms Race - 1784: Dunwich Meritocratic Confederacy Design Phase
« Reply #155 on: February 19, 2016, 01:48:25 am »
Quote from: Ukrainian Ranger on February 18, 2016, 09:23:04 pm
My design is a cheap gunship

Totally, I was just reacting to Baffle and his argument we need a blue-water navy.
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Re: Arms Race - 1784: Dunwich Meritocratic Confederacy Design Phase
« Reply #156 on: February 19, 2016, 03:19:20 pm »
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My design is a cheap gunship

Totally, I was just reacting to Baffle and his argument we need a blue-water navy.

Oh, I like the gunship. I was just confused about terminology and thinking "blue water" meant "capable of going on the ocean" as opposed to a riverboat or something.
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Re: Arms Race - 1784: Dunwich Meritocratic Confederacy Design Phase
« Reply #157 on: February 19, 2016, 04:40:49 pm »
Usually one discriminate between brown-water (Rivers, lake, coastline), green-water (littoral and close sea) and blue-water (open oceans). In this case, gunboats would be brown- or green-water navy. Blue-water navy would be real ships.
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