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[Jayfrin]

I was jsut startign my apartment complex and jsut out of curiousity, has anyone ever had the problem of a vein running though somewhere they don't want it?

I have a vein of coal going right through my complex coal is very important to me, but I wanted to engrave all the walls and floors so I don't wana mine it out and build up walls, should I just smooth it over or mine it out?

[Kagus]

You have touched upon one of the biggest and hairiest pet peeves of many a fortress designer, myself included...  How you deal with it is up to you, since there's no real way of covering it up again afterwards.

But if it's just room value you're going for, mine out the whole vein and then engrave the inside of it.  The effect is actually kinda cool.

[Joseph Miles]

I myself would dig out the whole vein and then wall over the area, careful not to trap a dwarf inside though.

This is why I prefer to make small apartments and huts above ground and make them easy to defend. Or just make a false cave with floors above them as ceilings.

[Msus]

Thank god for Tweak.

[Jayfrin]

I supose I shall mine out the vein and make the majority of it into a dinning or meeting room of some kind.

[Surma]

Heh, if you use tweak just make sure that you mess around in a completely unrelated area first, at least until you get used to it causing the next ice age in every tile you edit.

Damn thing froze my engravers  

[Derakon]

This is part of why I don't generally go for symmetrical designs any more. Because face it, what true dwarf would keep digging his square rooms with neat T-junctions when he hits a vein of, well, anything? My sleeping quarters meander, go into random dead ends, and do just about everything they can be to avoid being regular. Hm. Next time I do this I should make them occupy at least two levels, with ramps to let tunnels bypass each other without connecting.

Mind you, the actual working area of the fortress tends to be more utilitarian.

[Name Lips]

I ignore all veins and gem clusters when designing my dungeon layout. I figure dwarves would love to see engraved walls of rare and wondrous materials, all polished and worked into things of beauty. There's always plenty more to dig up in the Mines.

[Atlas]

quote:Originally posted by Derakon:
<STRONG>This is part of why I don't generally go for symmetrical designs any more. Because face it, what true dwarf would keep digging his square rooms with neat T-junctions when he hits a vein of, well, anything? My sleeping quarters meander, go into random dead ends, and do just about everything they can be to avoid being regular. Hm. Next time I do this I should make them occupy at least two levels, with ramps to let tunnels bypass each other without connecting.

Mind you, the actual working area of the fortress tends to be more utilitarian.</STRONG>

This begs the question, what kind of a fortress creates the best pathfinding? A more natural style, or a symetrical square one?

Three block wide hallways, or one?

I cannot seem to decide when I make my fortresses, and so everyone uses a different stle of management...

[Dareon Clearwater]

Once I mined out an entire seam of... nickel ore, I forget the actual stone, then dug domiciles off the edges of it.  Made for a very nice-looking design, actually.  In digging one room, I wound up with some fire opals in one wall, and didn't feel like changing the design to mine them out, so I expanded the rest of the room, polished the opals, and made it a noble's room.

I'm thinking about turning an entire vein of kimberlite into another noble's room, too.  Just walling off where I mined into it at first, polishing the entire thing, and designating the room as best I can from it.  There's probably enough area that I could make two rooms.  Naturally the stretch with the diamond floor will be the most valuable.

[sneakey pete]

I usually put the king in a large room situated inside a magnetite cluster. Preferably with platinum.

[Slappy Moose]

Rebuild over the odd material with the one of your choice, then use tweak to engrave those tiles.

It's a very handy tool.

[Exponent]

Mine the coal out, and then try to get some magma in there, if you have any, and cool it into obsidian with water.  Then smooth/engrave the obsidian.  It's probably too complicated and risky and time consuming to be worth it, though.

[MuonDecay]

quote:Originally posted by Slappy Moose:
<STRONG>Rebuild over the odd material with the one of your choice, then use tweak to engrave those tiles.

It's a very handy tool.</STRONG>

And a very buggy one, unfortunately.

Even if you remember to set the appropriate temperature in the menu it may still freeze your engraver to death just to spite you.