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xDarkz

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I need... Help. Advice.
« on: September 18, 2015, 08:22:47 am »

I admit it, I need help.

I treat my girlfriend of five years like absolute shit. I don't beat her, I would never hurt her, but I'm an abusive piece of shit when it comes to verbal and mental abuse. I absolutely adore her, but in sprouts of anger, I call her every single word in the book. And this anger? It's over the most mundane things, I can't even believe it.

I've come to this realization a couple of hours ago, she is crying on the phone with me. "What am I doing wrong? PLEASE TELL ME!" She screams. I'm sitting there, feeling horrible but I don't know what it is , I can't make myself apologize, I can simply brush her off with a stoic, "I think we need to see other people. You deserve better anyhow". Followed by, "If you wanted someone who cared and appreciated you, you'll find it somewhere else." We've always had these types of issues.... but I can feel it getting worst. We fight over the dumbest shit, I swear.

I need serious help. I work in a profession where I'm constantly stressed at work, but that is absolutely no reason to spill it onto this lovely woman that I am currently abusing...
« Last Edit: September 18, 2015, 08:29:11 am by xDarkz »
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Re: I need... Help. Advice.
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2015, 09:35:48 am »

Write to her exactly what you just wrote us.
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Re: I need... Help. Advice.
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2015, 09:39:27 am »

This is some deep shit, hence why nobody has really stood on it.
I really want to scream ARSEHOLE, but I feel it wouldnt get my point across..
It really does come down to the lame saying, hurt people hurt people.
You have low self issues.
I would recomend breaking up with her and persuing the goal of self happiness.
Quit your job, money is all shit, go work at a dennys mopping the floors.
Learn yoga and calm.the.fuck.down bro b4 sombody like me sees you abusing people and physically reflects the damage you are doing.
Would you treat a male friend the way you treat her?
Would you treat a fellow employee the same?
Parents? The fucking LAW? Probably not cause you couldnt get away with it and there are massive consiquences.

So when somebody screams ARSEHOLE at you next, remember that you ignored some great advice bro.


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Re: I need... Help. Advice.
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2015, 05:06:53 am »

Seeing as this is pretty much my middle bro treats me, you either need to admit you're bring a prick to your girlfriend and talk it out, expecting nothing, and explain you're constantly stressed and she doesn't deserve your verbal abuse and you're willing to work it out for real.

I really advise breaking off the relationship, both for her sake and yours. Learn how it means to be happy without hurting people and if you find that thing, go back to her or find someone else, woth the express purpose that the girl will be happier without your abuse.

also you don't break up because its her you break up stating that she doesnt deserve te abuse youre puttingvher through.

if she's still willing to work it out by then then for real change yourself.
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Re: I need... Help. Advice.
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2015, 03:42:07 am »

Even though this post is a few weeks old, it reminded me how I used to be up to 21 years old. Had already had 4 girlfriends by then, and I'd always say very hurtful things to them when I was angry.
The difference though is that it wasn't "abuse", or I wouldn't go all-out to calling them a whore or something like that. But I used to say stingy, deep-hurting kind of stuff that probably sticked with them for years.

The solution for me is simple to say, weird to mention, and rather hard to implement. I noticed that I usually got angry because:
1. I selfishly got extremely angry because they weren't behaving/thinking/feeling the way I expected them to, so this would create a loop that made me insanely mad for the stupidest reasons.
2. I'd identify and treat them like an "enemy" - like something I had to "disable" at all costs. In order words, I'd instantly go from treating them as a girlfriend to treating them like some weird dude at the street.

So I had to become less selfish with my expectations with people. I also had to learn not to turn every single disagreement as a all-out, Mutual-Assured-Destruction conflict.
And primarily, I had to remember how much I loved them and how much they mattered to me, and how it didn't make sense to hurt them even with words.

That's why it's hard to implement. It takes a lot of reflection and self-monitoring and reminding you of certain things. If you're going through a stressful time of your life, or if you are constantly busy, anxious or worried, it becomes pretty hard to keep reminding yourself to be good to those who are good to you.
It was "easy" (relatively, because it took a few months) for me because I had all the time of the world in a rather relaxed time of my life. Also, my girlfriend at the time I noticed this was very independent and she wouldn't simply look down and cry. She'd challenge me, and say I was being an asshole and that it made no sense that I would be a nice guy, then become her enemy all of a sudden. My other girlfriends before her would always look down and cry without telling me about it - so I never realized how bizarre my behavior was.
Also, as a child, my mother went through a terrible divorce with my dad so she'd do the same thing to me: say terrible stingy things that I never forgotten, and/or spill her troubles at work/family/with my father at me, so I absolutely hate and don't maintain contact to people who do this sort of thing to this day. So it was ironical that I, myself, was constantly doing it.

I'd also like to mention that this didn't just affect my relationship with girlfriends. This changed me a LOT with all sorts of relationships, including friends and family. Made me be more patient and understanding, and more present.

And if you decide to follow this way - which is basically changing your mindset about expectations, and always reminding yourself not to hurt those who love you - always remember that a better man is the one who admits to his mistakes.
I'd rather go out and have a beer with a dude who says "I'm an asshole. I'm the shittiest man in the planet. I make my girlfriend cry weekly.", than with the dude who says he's a great lover yet his girl is always hiding her bruises.
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Re: I need... Help. Advice.
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2015, 04:21:24 am »

Even though this post is a few weeks old, it reminded me how I used to be up to 21 years old. Had already had 4 girlfriends by then, and I'd always say very hurtful things to them when I was angry.
The difference though is that it wasn't "abuse", or I wouldn't go all-out to calling them a whore or something like that. But I used to say stingy, deep-hurting kind of stuff that probably sticked with them for years.

The solution for me is simple to say, weird to mention, and rather hard to implement. I noticed that I usually got angry because:
1. I selfishly got extremely angry because they weren't behaving/thinking/feeling the way I expected them to, so this would create a loop that made me insanely mad for the stupidest reasons.
2. I'd identify and treat them like an "enemy" - like something I had to "disable" at all costs. In order words, I'd instantly go from treating them as a girlfriend to treating them like some weird dude at the street.

So I had to become less selfish with my expectations with people. I also had to learn not to turn every single disagreement as a all-out, Mutual-Assured-Destruction conflict.
And primarily, I had to remember how much I loved them and how much they mattered to me, and how it didn't make sense to hurt them even with words.

That's why it's hard to implement. It takes a lot of reflection and self-monitoring and reminding you of certain things. If you're going through a stressful time of your life, or if you are constantly busy, anxious or worried, it becomes pretty hard to keep reminding yourself to be good to those who are good to you.
It was "easy" (relatively, because it took a few months) for me because I had all the time of the world in a rather relaxed time of my life. Also, my girlfriend at the time I noticed this was very independent and she wouldn't simply look down and cry. She'd challenge me, and say I was being an asshole and that it made no sense that I would be a nice guy, then become her enemy all of a sudden. My other girlfriends before her would always look down and cry without telling me about it - so I never realized how bizarre my behavior was.
Also, as a child, my mother went through a terrible divorce with my dad so she'd do the same thing to me: say terrible stingy things that I never forgotten, and/or spill her troubles at work/family/with my father at me, so I absolutely hate and don't maintain contact to people who do this sort of thing to this day. So it was ironical that I, myself, was constantly doing it.

I'd also like to mention that this didn't just affect my relationship with girlfriends. This changed me a LOT with all sorts of relationships, including friends and family. Made me be more patient and understanding, and more present.

And if you decide to follow this way - which is basically changing your mindset about expectations, and always reminding yourself not to hurt those who love you - always remember that a better man is the one who admits to his mistakes.
I'd rather go out and have a beer with a dude who says "I'm an asshole. I'm the shittiest man in the planet. I make my girlfriend cry weekly.", than with the dude who says he's a great lover yet his girl is always hiding her bruises.

+1

If you realize there is a problem, you're already halfway out of it. Work on yourself. Tell your girlfriend that you realize the issue and ask her to point out every time you're being an asshole and try to stop those moments from happening.
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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2015, 04:31:56 am »

Well said, Sheb. In my case, I probably would have taken years to realize and change if I didn't "enlist" the girl to help me sort my own behavior out.
Just a "You're doing that thing.." and "I'm not your enemy, remember?" would stop me on my tracks better than anything.
My relationships got so much better after that!
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« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2015, 11:51:31 pm »

The posts ^ give a very good idea of what advice must be taken.

Self-mindfulness. Self-analysis. Insight on what you do, why you do, how you communicate--watching your words and being directly aware of them and their impact...is a great step towards being better.

And if you decide to follow this way - which is basically changing your mindset about expectations, and always reminding yourself not to hurt those who love you - always remember that a better man is the one who admits to his mistakes.
By far and large, this is important to remember as a personal principle.

Despite what your environment may be, or your experiences in life--there's a better way of acting, doing, and thinking about things than what may be currently known--if all you've known creates problems or exclusivity.

If you realize there is a problem, you're already halfway out of it. Work on yourself.
This too--as a problem is usually mutual in origin, even in cases where there is no fault or blame at all. It may not be because of one party--but the impression that party has on the other.

And do note this: Progress is implicitly seen. That difference between before and what is seen now. Present yourself well, but make sure that presentation stretches far deeper than superficial appearances. If you can debase acting on what you feel--instead stopping yourself from doing the [hurtful act] and making the other person aware of what's going on in/with you or what you feel, that's a step towards help.
This is some deep shit, hence why nobody has really stood on it.
I really want to scream ARSEHOLE, but I feel it wouldnt get my point across..
It doesn't. :) At all.

When people begin screaming expletives at others--the big point isn't seen in 99% of what's going on.

Basically--people are seeing the attitude. That certain attitude makes them a mix of  >:( :-\ :'( :-X ??? ...and then they direct what adjective they feel is best.
It's not directly describing the problem. It may describe how the other person is acting if that is stated so they'll get your idea...but generally, just calling someone else an arsehole doesn't get the idea across effectively, that the other person can both get your point, and get better from it.
But it is a guiding idea. And its a subtle hint to reflect on for better ideas.
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