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Re: How to stop thinking too much about consequences and possibilities?
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2015, 09:03:42 am »

Also helps to analyze how well your previous behavior has served you in the past. If you notice that the behavior has not made you happy, then it is worth it to just not listen to those inner voices and try something else. See how that pans out when you do it for a while, at some point you should find something that works better :)

I have, many times.

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Results: Satisfactory (I am surprisingly easy to please with little fuss required to maintain my happiness), they have kept me safe from whatever negative consequence I am preparing myself for, such as overpreparing a school project in advance, just in case I have to show something.

This also ends up stressing me, and mainly, the reason why I'm asking is to stop being indecisive for other peoples' sake. I want to maintain relationships, no matter how much I instinctively push people away by focusing only on me and my safety, which is what my "analytical" mind defaults to - self benefit.

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Re: How to stop thinking too much about consequences and possibilities?
« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2015, 06:38:51 pm »

Paralysis by analysis.  Actually you have some good thoughts:

-family might need me -- yeah, family emergencies crop up from time to time.  Check with them if there's anything on the horizon.  Otherwise they'll just have to wait while you're on your trip.  You have to wait while they're on their trips, don't you?  And you're not as indispensable as you think you are.  The world will continue to spin when you're not around.

-family might scold me -- what, you're a minor?  Check with your parents then, obviously you can only go if they agree.  Or are you an adult but dependent on them for finances?  Again, check it's OK, but you'll probably find they'll be glad to get you out of their hair for a while.  If you're not dependent on them and an adult, then they can't "scold" you; it's not appropriate.  You have your own life now and it's up to you to make decisions.

-i might run out of cash -- That's a very good point.  Work out how much you'll need for the trip, allow for the fact that you'll probably be eating out a lot more than normal, and you'll want to spend cash on other stuff as well.  Work out a budget - say £50/day, add travel costs, overestimate at all points, then add 20% contingency, then round up.  Then make sure the cash is safe; keep it in the bank and take your card, or travellers cheques, or something; keep currency to a minimum (unless you're going somewhere daft like Zimbabwe).  If you buy a return ticket at the outset then at least your journey home is covered even if you end up broke.

-it's too far how do i get home -- nowhere is too far.  If your return ticket is paid for then you could even get back home from Australia within 24 hours.  If it's Antarctica, darkest Russia or the moon then you *might* have a point.

- I'm afraid of the unknown -- not one you put down, but could this be why your "safe" option is not to go at all?  You'll miss out on a lot.  Next time you get an offer, decide that you're going unless there's a VERY good reason not to.
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Re: How to stop thinking too much about consequences and possibilities?
« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2015, 09:47:32 pm »

@xpi0t0s

Paralysis by analysis.  Actually you have some good thoughts:

-family might need me -- yeah, family emergencies crop up from time to time.  Check with them if there's anything on the horizon.  Otherwise they'll just have to wait while you're on your trip.  You have to wait while they're on their trips, don't you?  And you're not as indispensable as you think you are.  The world will continue to spin when you're not around.


True, I guess. Based on experience though, they wouldn't know what they want until they really need it. Like giving me approval to participate in student organizations on university, and at the last minute, pulling me out, just practically begging me.

-family might scold me -- what, you're a minor?  Check with your parents then, obviously you can only go if they agree.  Or are you an adult but dependent on them for finances?  Again, check it's OK, but you'll probably find they'll be glad to get you out of their hair for a while.  If you're not dependent on them and an adult, then they can't "scold" you; it's not appropriate.  You have your own life now and it's up to you to make decisions.

It's less about parents and consent (I don't have parents caring for me, for reasons I will not explain), and more about sibling relationships who have practically become my replacements, and they would sulk if I ended up not doing something they want be done. This is only an issue because I somehow desire some approval from family, despite that it may result in generally unwise consequences.

-i might run out of cash -- That's a very good point.  Work out how much you'll need for the trip, allow for the fact that you'll probably be eating out a lot more than normal, and you'll want to spend cash on other stuff as well.  Work out a budget - say £50/day, add travel costs, overestimate at all points, then add 20% contingency, then round up.  Then make sure the cash is safe; keep it in the bank and take your card, or travellers cheques, or something; keep currency to a minimum (unless you're going somewhere daft like Zimbabwe).  If you buy a return ticket at the outset then at least your journey home is covered even if you end up broke.

Yeah, I tend to bring a budget with a large net to catch me if in case I fail on doing the budget. It's just that, I'm somewhat... frugal nowadays. I have to fight my urges to actively buy something.

-it's too far how do i get home -- nowhere is too far.  If your return ticket is paid for then you could even get back home from Australia within 24 hours.  If it's Antarctica, darkest Russia or the moon then you *might* have a point.

True. I just don't feel "safe" away from places familiar to me.

- I'm afraid of the unknown -- not one you put down, but could this be why your "safe" option is not to go at all?  You'll miss out on a lot.  Next time you get an offer, decide that you're going unless there's a VERY good reason not to.

Mhm. Noted.

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Thanks for all yer advice guys, I'm somewhat comfortable coping with this, as you said xpi0t0s, paralysis by analysis. I just have to shut down the paranoid sector of my brain for a bit, and assume that nothing (bad) is going to happen, because nothing ever will.
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Re: How to stop thinking too much about consequences and possibilities?
« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2015, 10:47:14 pm »

Quick summary of the thing, when I think about things, I tend to think about the possibility of other events happening, and the possibilities of the possibilities, and so on and so forth.

It's a good thing when you're trying to be careful, but when it puts a damper on your social life (Oh, this girl would turn me down anyway, at some point in life, I'm not going to waste my time trying to cultivate what I will lose eventually), it's equal parts bad. Mainly because I think of the possibilities of x event happening, my social growth has stunted.

Like so, the above is scenario A (girlfriend).

Scenario B:

Friend invites me to go on outings
* New Guy thinks of the possibilities that could happen
-family might need me
-family might scold me
-i might run out of cash
-it's too far how do i get home

end result: nah, maybe next time.

I want to get away from this. Any tips?

I've got a similar problem too. I've yet to come up with a safe, practical solution (and am too cautious to try an unsafe impractical solution like constantly drinking a lot of vodka redbulls)
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Re: How to stop thinking too much about consequences and possibilities?
« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2015, 10:56:30 pm »

My nudge-iness is poking me at the title being misleading again due to lacking adjectives :P
But yeah--divert how you think instead of stopping it, because thinking like that is...pretty OK. Really. Just how its being used and such. [I've been living with it for yeeeaaaars o_o]
To be blunt.
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Re: How to stop thinking too much about consequences and possibilities?
« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2015, 10:58:51 pm »

So far, I've found out that if you really want something to be done despite the consequences, you'll have to do it and think of the results after. There's no way I can get past my analyses without outright ignoring it.

All in all, you just have to leverage on the possibility of negative x occurring. Going to a night out with friends while explicitly asking for permission, nothing bad's gonna happen with that since you already prepared. Going to a night out, with strict parents, without asking for permission?

Yeah, you have to rethink again.

@Tir: What's so misleading about the title ._.
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Re: How to stop thinking too much about consequences and possibilities?
« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2015, 11:53:03 pm »

@Tir: What's so misleading about the title ._.
My wording, sorry x_x
(I misread consequences and thought of it like something akin to Death Row...because of the book I'm reading. That's totally my mistake thar. :-[ :-X)

So far, I've found out that if you really want something to be done despite the consequences, you'll have to do it and think of the results after. There's no way I can get past my analyses without outright ignoring it.
Here's something I do--turn that thinking into holistic thinking :3 Divert it as if looking at it from a third-party once you're at most sure that priorities are fixed! Think along the way \o/
The leverage is brilliant though with presence of mind. :)
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Re: How to stop thinking too much about consequences and possibilities?
« Reply #22 on: August 03, 2015, 12:08:06 am »

dang. deathrow's too hardcore :v
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Re: How to stop thinking too much about consequences and possibilities?
« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2015, 03:05:34 am »

dang. deathrow's too hardcore :v
Eeh .-. It's not -really- Death Row. It's a fictional name of a place in a fictional book I'm reading.

...And thus you can see the error of 'thinking too much'. I totally missed the specificity. :P
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Re: How to stop thinking too much about consequences and possibilities?
« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2015, 03:37:26 am »

You can never think too much about consequences and possibilities, I think. The act of doing so provides you with information, and it's always good to exercise healthy caution.

The problem's not that you think about consequences too much, but rather what you do about them. Considering all the cons of an action motivates you to take a path of lesser resistance, and living life by the path of least resistance can turn out pretty awfully at times.

Instead you can plan ahead to offset quite a few of the foreseeable issues. Do not disregard all of the terrible scenarios you can imagine, but instead work out some plans to deal with them. Your ability to imagine and consider worst-case scenarios - something people are surprisingly bad at - is invaluable at making plans. When faced with problems, try to fix them. Coordinate. Plan. It makes things so much more efficient when you have a plan or two to deal with a broad set of eventualities. Don't ignore your fears, because a few of them may very likely come true. Consider ways to fix the most rational issues (or just the ones that bother you most) after doing an analysis of the individual worst-case scenarios.

And never assume that nothing bad is going to happen. Instead, prepare for the worst, and have plans A and B on hand for it. Good way to manage fear, planning.

Don't be shy about utilizing your support networks either - family, friends, miscellaneous loved ones - it's what they're for, no? People enjoy being useful to others as long as it doesn't inconvenience them too much (and with sufficiently early notification they typically won't be inconvenienced too much).

Of course, that's the ideal course of action, and it takes quite a bit of work. Failing that, you can do the yes man approach - when the path of least resistance lies one way, consciously go the other way, opening yourself to difficulty and reward, go wild, that sort of thing. Planning is a healthier habit in theory, though also considerably difficult. As a paranoid individual, I know all too well about fear creating inaction, but there are times when being paranoid has helped me quite a bit in dealing with potential issues.
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