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[Vidox Darkling]

I hope this is the right place for this. Not sure if this is a General Discussion thing, Creative Projects Thing, or Other Games thing. Sorry if I'm wrong. Long story short, I'm hosting a Masterwork Dwarf Fortress themed Dungeons & Dragons 5E game. I'm converting a lot of things from the game such as Giant Desert Scorpions and Giant Cave Spiders. I'll post some of what I've converted so far.
Anyways, one thing I was wondering if anyone had any advice for was converting Frost Giants over (the jerks who'll invade your fort if it becomes too advanced). They'll be a late game enemy, but one that I'll want weak enough that there can be armies of. Any advice?

Giant Cave Spider

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Large Beast, unaligned
CR 4 - 1,500xp

Armor Class 16 (Natural Armor)
Hit points 86 (8d12 + 25)
Speed 40ft, climb 40ft
Senses Blindsight 10ft, Darkvision 60ft
Immunities Stun, Pain, Webbed, Fear
Skills Stealth +6
Languages -----

Str 20 (+5)
Dex 18 (+4)
Con 14 (+2)
Int 2 (-4)
Wis 12 (+1)
Cha 4 (-3)

Spider Climb
The spider can climb difficult surfaces, including upside down on ceilings, without needing
to make an ability check.

Web Sense
While in contact with a web, the spider knows the exact location of any other creature in
contact with the same web

Web Walker
The spider ignores movement restrictions caused by webbing.



Actions

Bite
Melee Weapon Attack
+7 to hit, reach 5ft, one creature
Hit: 7 (1d8 +4) piercing damage and the target must make a DC 13 Constitution saving throw, taking
9 (2d8) poison damage on a failed save, or half as much damage on a successful one. If the
poison damage reduces the target to 0 hit points, the target is stable, but poisoned for 1 hour, even
after regaining hit points, and is paralyzed while poisoned this way.

Web (Recharge 5-6)
Ranged Weapon Attack
+7 to hit, cone 40ft
Hit: The target is restrained by webbing. As an action, the restrained target can make a DC 14
Strength check, bursting the webbing on a success. The webbing can also be attacked and destroyed (AC
14, hp 10, vulnerability to fire damage, immunity to bludgeoning, poison, and psychic damage).

Giant Desert Scorpion

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Large beast, unaligned
Armor Class 15 (natural armor)
Hit Points 80 (8d10 + 14)

Speed 40ft.
STR 19 (+4)
DEX 15 (+2)
CON 17 (+3)
INT 3 (-4)
WIS 12 (+1)
CHA 3 (-4)

Senses blindsight 120ft., passive Perception 14
Languages -
Challenge 7 (2,900 XP)

ACTIONS

Multiattack. The scorpion makes two attacks with its claws or one with its sting.

Claw. Melee Weapon Attack: +8 to hit, reach 5 ft., one target.
Hit: 6 (2d6 + 6) bludgeoning damage, and the target is grappled (escape DC 12). The scorpion has two
claws, each of which can grapple only one target.

Sting. Melee Weapon Attack: +8 to hit, reach 5 ft., one creature grappled.
Hit: 7 (1d10 + 6) piercing damage, and the target must make a DC 15 Constitution saving throw,
taking 11 (2d10) poison damage on a failed save, or half as much damage on a successful one. In
addition, a failed save causes the players to be poisoned with Giant Desert Scorpion poison, a deadly
poison which causes necrosis of the brain and nervous system, resulting in instant death once they
completely rot.
Every 4 hours that elapse, the creature must repeat the saving throw, reducing its hit point maximum
by 5 (2d10 +5) on a failure. The reduction lasts until the disease is cured. The creature dies if the
disease reduces it's hit point maximum to 0.

Forgotten Beast, Thebi

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THEBI
Huge Monstrosity, Chaotic Neutral
Armor Class 18 (natural armor)
Hit Points 123 (15d12 + 50)
Speed 50ft., swim 75 ft.

STR 24 (+7)
DEX 9 (-1)
CON 19 (+4)
INT 5 (-3)
WIS 14 (+2)
CHA 7 (-2)

Skills Stealth +3, Athletics +11
Senses passive Perception 12
Languages -
Challenge 11 (7,200XP)


Amphibious. Thebi can breathe water or air.

ACTIONS

Multiattack. Thebi makes three attacks: one with its bite, one with its tail, and one with
it's sting.

Bite. Melee Weapon Attack: +11 to hit, reach 5 ft., one target.
Hit: 21 (4d10 + 7) piercing damage, and the target is grappled (escape DC 18). Until this grapple
ends, the target is restrained, and Thebi can't bite another target. It can, however, bite the
target currently grappled each turn.

Tail. Melee Weapon Attack: +11 to hit, reach 10ft., one target not grappled by Thebi.
Hit: 14 (3d8 + 7) bludgeoning damage. If the target is a creature, it must succeed on a DC 18
Strength saving throw or be knocked prone.

Sting. Melee Weapon Attack: +11 to hit, reach 10ft., one target not grappled by Thebi.
Hit: 14 (2d8 + 7) bludgeoning damage. If the target is a creature, it must succeed on a DC 16
Constitution saving throw or be paralyzed. The target can repeat this saving throw on each of
it's turns.

LEGENDARY ACTIONS

Thebi can take 3 legendary actions, choosing from the options below. Only one legendary action option can be used at a time and only at the end of another creature's turn. Thebi regains spent legendary actions at the start of it's turn.

Move. Thebi moves up to half it's speed without provoking opportunity attacks.
Tail Swipe. Thebi makes one tail attack.
Bite. Thebi makes one bite attack.

[Neonivek]

Other than an inconsistent write outs.

One issue your having is that a lot of those guys are a lot more epic then how dungeons and dragons 5th edition would handle them. Heck even more then how Dwarf Fortress handles them.

For example the AC on some of those are pretty high. The game already has Giant Scorpions and Giant Spiders that are larger then the DF equivalents (CR 3 giant scorpion with 15 ac)

The way the game works is unless you actually wield real power you aren't going to climb very high in the CRs. A T-rex is the highest CR of natural animal and it is a CR 7 (And is significantly more powerful then a real T-rex for some reason).

Don't be afraid of Low CRs in 5th edition. Even to a party of level 20s a weak monster can actually land a few blows (unlike 3rd and pathfinder).

Also FLAT OUT make that Forgotten Beast a Legendary Monster.

As for how to handle the Frost Giants you just have to ask yourself how powerful they really are and then compare. How supernatural are they? How strong.

edit: Also you might want to edit your scorpion. Does it use Two claw attacks or a single tail attack? or can it opt to not use one claw to instead sting you? as well the average of 2d10+5 isn't 5.

[Vidox Darkling]

Nerfing their AC and their health a bit. The main reason I had their CRs high was because I was trying to capture the lethality of Dwarf Fortress. One good strike could end your life. That, and because I've been making these from scratch as opposed to following the DM's guide on creating monsters. I'm trying to find just the right blend of D&D and Dwarf Fortress. Most of the people ingame are huge fans of DF, so they've been digging what I've been throwing at them so far.
Making Thebi a Legendary Monster as well.

[Neonivek]

Hmmm well you don't have to follow that, you can make them stronger if you want.

What you can do is give them damage that belies their AC and HP.

So sure... it might have the CR of 2 when it comes to its AC and HP.

But it might have a CR of 6 when it comes to raw damage, just the flat out lethality of its poison would be legendary. It would feel a lot like the game in that Cave Spiders might not be the toughest monster... but one bite and your going to hurt.

That is CR 4 alone with HUGE amount of damage up its wazoo.

Talk it up, let them know how absolutely legendary its poison is. "Though its stature is imposing its toxins are far more intimidating, able to fell giants with a single bite everyone knows to stay away when they come close"

Ok what are the Frost Giants? I don't think those are a thing.

Also Giant Cave Spiders are Medium Creatures apparently.

[Vidox Darkling]

Frost Giants from Masterwork Dwarf Fortress, not just vanilla.