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hyperman500

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best weapons you could think of
« on: April 16, 2015, 07:51:35 pm »

I'm running 34:11, before toady fixed the planespacked glitch, so what would happen if you made a planespacked hammer?
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Re: best weapons you could think of
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2015, 08:48:01 pm »

I'm running 34:11, before toady fixed the planespacked glitch, so what would happen if you made a planespacked hammer?
It would just be a normal artifact hammer if you're talking about effectiveness. Decorations don't do anything for weapons except improve quality, and artifacts are already artifacts.
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Re: best weapons you could think of
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2015, 08:51:42 pm »

Decorations have their own quality, separate from the base item, so even if the decorations are masterwork, the base weapon's quality and function would not be changed.

Decorations have no bearing on their base, so studding an adamantine war hammer with platinum or even slade would not make it weigh any more or hit any harder.
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Re: best weapons you could think of
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2015, 10:48:21 pm »

On the other hand, if they do add to total weight, won't your planespacked be too heavy to wield?
(Imagine a beard carrying a 50-ton hammer).
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Re: best weapons you could think of
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2015, 06:46:25 am »

A slade warhammer, if one could be constructed, might weigh 1-2 tons.
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Re: best weapons you could think of
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2015, 07:22:55 am »

A slade warhammer, if one could be constructed, might weigh 1-2 tons.

Actually, slade is 25.478 times denser than iron/steel. A quick search tells me that iron weighs 0.2843 lbs./in3, so slade weighs about 7.24 lbs./in3.

A 3 lb iron warhammer would "only" weigh 75 lb when made from slade.
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Re: best weapons you could think of
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2015, 08:28:01 am »

Yeah, 75lbs is still something for a hammer.
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« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2015, 11:18:40 am »

75lbs is still -far- too heavy to use in actual combat.  Its not a question of whether yo ucan pick it up or not, its a question if you can swing it more than once.  Combat requires multiple (quick) blows and is often a contest of endurance as much as skill.  I believe the heaviest actual weapons were more like 7-8lbs for greatswords pushing 6 feet.  Axes were rarely as heavy as 6lbs.  Not so sure on the maces, but having used heavy equipment (pickaxe) and sledgehammers, making quick controlled strikes with something pushing 20 lbs will leave you on your ass in short order. 
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Re: best weapons you could think of
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2015, 11:21:15 am »

75lbs is still -far- too heavy to use in actual combat.  Its not a question of whether yo ucan pick it up or not, its a question if you can swing it more than once.  Combat requires multiple (quick) blows and is often a contest of endurance as much as skill.  I believe the heaviest actual weapons were more like 7-8lbs for greatswords pushing 6 feet.  Axes were rarely as heavy as 6lbs.  Not so sure on the maces, but having used heavy equipment (pickaxe) and sledgehammers, making quick controlled strikes with something pushing 20 lbs will leave you on your ass in short order.
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Re: best weapons you could think of
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2015, 02:37:21 pm »

This is dwarf fortress, a single untrained dwarf is able to wild a slade hammer with no problem, so it shouldn't have a problem with anything else. I was just thinking that all the materials that went into it would make it very effective
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Re: best weapons you could think of
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2015, 03:10:04 pm »

75lbs is still -far- too heavy to use in actual combat.  Its not a question of whether yo ucan pick it up or not, its a question if you can swing it more than once.  Combat requires multiple (quick) blows and is often a contest of endurance as much as skill.  I believe the heaviest actual weapons were more like 7-8lbs for greatswords pushing 6 feet.  Axes were rarely as heavy as 6lbs.  Not so sure on the maces, but having used heavy equipment (pickaxe) and sledgehammers, making quick controlled strikes with something pushing 20 lbs will leave you on your ass in short order.
Improving armour skill causes Dwarves to move and fight faster in all armours, even those constructed of rather heavy materials. One would surmise that this works much the same way with legendary weapon skill users just as it is with armour users; both are unencumbered by such things as material as they are... Well, legendary.

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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2015, 06:30:26 pm »

Dwarfs use booze as an energy source to fuel their bodys. Thus, their strength far surpasses that of an usual human.
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Re: best weapons you could think of
« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2015, 07:12:37 pm »

75lbs is still -far- too heavy to use in actual combat.  Its not a question of whether yo ucan pick it up or not, its a question if you can swing it more than once.  Combat requires multiple (quick) blows and is often a contest of endurance as much as skill.  I believe the heaviest actual weapons were more like 7-8lbs for greatswords pushing 6 feet.  Axes were rarely as heavy as 6lbs.  Not so sure on the maces, but having used heavy equipment (pickaxe) and sledgehammers, making quick controlled strikes with something pushing 20 lbs will leave you on your ass in short order.
Improving armour skill causes Dwarves to move and fight faster in all armours, even those constructed of rather heavy materials. One would surmise that this works much the same way with legendary weapon skill users just as it is with armour users; both are unencumbered by such things as material as they are... Well, legendary.
It doesn't. Legendary military dwarves will probably have very high strength though, potentially enough to carry a slade warhammer and wear armor as their armor will effectively weigh nothing.
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