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Centigrade

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Is attribute training no longer a thing in DF2014?
« on: February 07, 2015, 11:15:42 am »

I started a new fort and assigned my 2 dwarfs with the least useful preferences to be miners with the intention of later turning them into my first military squad. They have made it all the way to Legendary now, and they still have physical attributes as low as 9. The wiki page for Attributes claims that attribute training is a thing, but the 40.23 page is literally just a copy of the 34.11 page. If DF2014 has removed it, then is there some easy way to re-add it, either through a dfhack plugin or editing the raws?
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utunnels

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Re: Is attribute training no longer a thing in DF2014?
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2015, 12:05:54 pm »

It is not worthy to train attributes. You'll probably need to remove a mountain to see the effect.

I think military training is faster. All my military dorfs ended up with high strength. Just keep them training 24/7.

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Re: Is attribute training no longer a thing in DF2014?
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2015, 12:27:21 pm »

What did you do to train your military: danger rooms, or actual sparring and training? If the latter, then does it work with a pick equipped?
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utunnels

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Re: Is attribute training no longer a thing in DF2014?
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2015, 12:41:06 pm »

What did you do to train your military: danger rooms, or actual sparring and training? If the latter, then does it work with a pick equipped?

Just sparring and training. Danger rooms can train shield faster, but I feel regular training is fast enough.
Pick works like normal weapons, but you never get a title from it (no pick master).
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Re: Is attribute training no longer a thing in DF2014?
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2015, 01:14:44 pm »

in 8 days, I noticed around 4 to 6 points of strength gain when I was specifically checking it.   I've also observed that after aproximately 6 months, a dwarf who was "very weak"(730ish startign strength) is now weak or normal, with around 860 strength.   Dwarves who started at normal or strong are now strong.   

If you want to train Strength, Agility, Toughness, Endurance,  and Focus, go with military training.  6 months to a year is enough to turn your dorfs into stoulittle buggers.   If you then want them to go back to civvie jobs, simply pull them out of the military completely, and them go to work.   This is actually a benefit over-all:  with good Discipline, you're less likely to have horrified reactions cancel jobs, with high strength your dorfs will carry furniture, bars and stones quicker,  With higher agility your dwarves move faster, higher endurance and toughness mean they're less likely to get exhausted or injured and recover faster, and ith decent Dodger and Fighter skills, your haulers can now fight off thieves and other incidental problems.   It's nice when your wood hauler grabs a kea by the beak, then punches it's skull into a bloody pulp, then goes on about his tasks. 
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Re: Is attribute training no longer a thing in DF2014?
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2015, 08:51:25 pm »

If possible, I recruit as many civs as possible and give them armors.
When I want them to work, I just don't give the barracks.

The only problem is mining and wood cutting job conflict with replace clothing. In this case, just switch to over clothing for those certain dorfs.
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Re: Is attribute training no longer a thing in DF2014?
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2015, 09:43:43 pm »

Interesting. How do drills work right?
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