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DarthMetool

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Dwarven Citizenship Question
« on: February 03, 2015, 10:09:09 am »

Okay, here's the deal.

I'm tracing the lineage of a dwarf king for a nation I plan to draw from for a fort.  While I was doing this, I noticed a lot of fights, deaths and snatches from one neighboring goblin nation.  Sometimes the dwarves would make it back, often they don't.  The goblins were conquering the dwarven forts and ruling them, as well.  Strangely, I noticed a bit of a pattern close to the current king.  Some of the dwarves hold dual citizenship in both the dwarf nation and the goblin nation.

Is that normal?

It seems to have had an effect on the current king and his family.  A lot of them are obsessed with living forever.  Even found one successful necromancer directly related to the current king, along with direct lineage from the 7th, 8th, 12th, and 14th through 19th past rulers.  Blood of Kings, indeed. 

The king is even noted as having killed his sister, while the king's mother killed one of the king's sons.

This has been so fascinating, I haven't started a fort yet.

If anyone knows anything, please let me know as well.
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Re: Dwarven Citizenship Question
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2015, 01:30:27 pm »

Multi-civ citizenship is entirely normal from what I can tell. In fact it's not unusual to have a few nonwhatevers (goblins, dorfs, and what have you) in a given civ of a different race, even if there wasn't any wars/abductions between a given pair of civs. You'll never see them outside adventure mode until multi-race forts are a thing, but it's possible to have a few hundred dwarves and goblins living in a human civ or a couple dozen elves who just decided to live in a dwarf  or goblin civ and so on.

If there's been a lot of fighting or megabeast/night creature attacks (and thus lots of people dying,) people tend to worry more about thier mortality. I'm assuming monarchs are doubly affected by this if there's been a chain of rulers being killed every other year, many relatives die of old age, in battle, famine, or during beast rampages at the same time (as they'd understandably fear for thier personal safety.) Exposure to goblins or elves regularly might also have an impact on that particular concern.

As to killing kin, it was probably the result of abductions/conquests. Cause when dwarves raised by goblins face dwarves raised by dwarves in battle, familial ties don't matter. Someone's probably going home in a box at the end of it.

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Re: Dwarven Citizenship Question
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2015, 02:24:44 pm »

This does explain a lot.  However, those family members that were murdered were never snatched away by goblins.
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Re: Dwarven Citizenship Question
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2015, 02:34:57 pm »

I like to think that the constant contact they had with the immortal goblins made them more conscious about their own mortality, leading them to make pacts with gods and whatnot too evade oblivion, and so they keep the Dwarf civ run by Dwarves and preserve the integrity of the hereditary nobility. Goblins wouldn't die and pass on their positions unless assassinated (not a thing in worldgen) or maybe killed if enemies sack of the city (which causes too much collateral damage to be deliberately permitted as a political tool) so any post a goblin takes up will probably be held by that same goblin for a very long time. They must therefore buttress their political position with immortals of their own. What's a few zombies or peasants drained of blood in the grand scheme of things when the integrity of the Dwarven nation's sacred traditions is at stake?
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