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[StagnantSoul]

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[spoiler][spoiler][spoiler][spoiler]So, after conquering a vault, and reading the slab, you can find and force a demon to join you. Could we not apply something similar to fort mode? Unique demons are as intelligent as any dwarf, so it's reasonable to say that we can't get them to join us without the slab, no matter what we do. But why can't we enslave the lesser demons? The ones that aren't intelligent? They should basically be tough animals. Say, catch them in a webbed cage trap. Normally, you'll be getting some interesting trade good, something to release in a moat or in front of an army, or a venomous blob of vomit. But why can't we force them to join us? They can't breed. It would be even harder to tame a demon, with the success rate being low, even with a legendary trainer. But finally, you've mastered said demon, and now you can enlist him in your ranks, or have him guard your entrance. One demon can be matched by a legendary dwarf in steel reliably, so long as it's not some super tough ape or something equally terrifying. When I used a setup to single out demons in small groups, my legendary dwarves, in individual cells, normally beat anything short of iron or steel demons, unless they had webs or deadly dust. So it wouldn't be quite like adding a super dwarf in, more like adding a master dwarf to your ranks. And with a really low turnout rate. A reward for conquering hell, why not? Unique demons, the ones twisted into a human frame, would obviously be exempt, impossible to break into your will.

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[Pwned dwarf]

lesser demons are probably have their mind enslaved to a unique demon

[StagnantSoul]

  Good point. Kill the unique ones, then you can enslave the now mindless lesser demons?

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in a similar way to the Urgals in the Inheritance cycle.

[red_kangaroo]

It might be very interesting to have some intelligent demons in the Hell as well. E.g. the siege on your fortress is lead by a steel-clad intelligent demon with a number of feral minions.

Anyway, enslaving a demon seems more appropriate for a magic ritual than for an animal training. But I wouldn't mind a demonologist binding demons for my fortress.

[dwarf_reform]

When I looked at the thread title, I auto-thought, "And then, when you mine out every single drop of candy on the map, the site is suddenly cursed and all clowns on the map become tame war clowns at the cost of near-constant uber-clown sieges.."

It seems less awesome now that I've typed it out, but I guess it would be a choice for bored "end-game" dwarves (a choice made only by mining out that last tile of candy)..

I would say "I'd love a tame clown!", but I've never purposefully unleashed any clowns, and have only done so accidentally two or three times :> I love all my forts too much to smear them up with clown paint

[Urist McVoyager]

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Who is to say that when we're able to send our armies out into the world, we couldn't loot some Vault and make off with the slab that controls a specific Clown? A single Adventurer has a tough time, but thirty or forty Legendaries armed with steel or candy? Fuck yeah!

[StagnantSoul]

Very, very, very good point! Send out an army, with the order to retrieve a clown, they come back, you get the casualty report, the loot, and the clown that can now be put into military squads. I like this so much more than my idea, basically grabbing a clown by the balloons and forcing it to fight for you. I wish unique clowns had something to guarantee they'd be made from a tough material. After fighting through tons of stone angels, I got a clown made of water. I drank him.

[Urist McVoyager]

Pfft. Clown made of water? He just became a mascot of the hospital. Stick him in the well and kill him off.

[Naryar]

Aren't all demons [INTELLIGENT] ?

[StagnantSoul]

They all have [CAN_LEARN] and, oddly, a lot of social skills.

[red_kangaroo]

They all have [CAN_LEARN] and, oddly, a lot of social skills.

Well, the whole circus is just a big bare slade cavern. They don't have much to do for all eternity but to socialize.

[StagnantSoul]

I can just see the announcement... "Don McSatan has organized an Eternal Party at the slade square" Party until the sky falls.