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TheMaidenInBlack

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Bug? Nobody fights back.
« on: September 01, 2014, 11:45:24 pm »

Hey all. I was just wondering if Adventure mode is broken right now because every single character that I fight refuses to respond in any way other than running away, except sometimes they don't even do that. They'll just stand there and let me kill them. Is this a known issue? Is it planned to be fixed? Adventure mode is kind of unplayable right now for me because there's no challenge. I mean, a marsh titan just ran away saying "I must withdraw!" over and over. I've actually had to adopt a new fighting style of going wrestler and breaking everything's leg so it won't run away from me. That got old after a while.
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smjjames

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Re: Bug? Nobody fights back.
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2014, 11:55:48 pm »

Which version are you playing? It's significantly improved with 40.10.

It still needs some tweaks though because when I got an ambush on me in a dark tower, a recruit accidentially got hit in the crossfire, causing everybody to bolt.
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Re: Bug? Nobody fights back.
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2014, 12:08:21 am »

40.10
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Re: Bug? Nobody fights back.
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2014, 12:10:28 am »

Maybe adding [NATURAL_SKILL:DISCIPLINE:15] would help. The problem is I added this to the raw, but the game isn't recognizing it because older versions I had Legendary discipline when I looked at skill screen. Dont know what the deal is

Edit, I think I know I didn't have the underscore, gonna retry
« Last Edit: September 02, 2014, 12:13:14 am by Shizmoo »
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TheMaidenInBlack

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Re: Bug? Nobody fights back.
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2014, 12:13:08 am »

Tried that. Doesn't work.
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Re: Bug? Nobody fights back.
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2014, 06:31:09 am »

It's strange, on my various titans battles, i never had one of them running away, but most of my allies always ran in terror.
For the incoming 0.40.11, Toady fixed that :

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0007360: [Dwarf Mode -- Combat] Combat horror and cowardice too common (Toady One) - resolved.

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These reactions are much less frequent now, although there should still be some balance/nuance especially as it relates to people in/used to combat.
Even if it's mentionned as "Dwarf Mode" hopefully it should help with various individuals running away in terror too easily in adventure mode too as both modes use same character skills and attributes.

« Last Edit: September 02, 2014, 06:32:58 am by Robsoie »
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Re: Bug? Nobody fights back.
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2014, 10:01:32 am »

a marsh titan just ran away saying "I must withdraw!" over and over.

Are marsh titans supposed to talk?
Also, is it an old save? Sometimes there's some leftover weirdness, from what I understand. Not sure if morale is affected, but it might be.
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Re: Bug? Nobody fights back.
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2014, 07:09:47 pm »

Happens to me too. Do you really want to attack the Night Troll? Alt+y. ect. everyone and everything's a neutral or friendly creature. Animalmen just stand around and casually talk about how they're being massacred. Got ambushed by wolves who then proceeded to stand around and wait for me to walk up to them and take them out one by one. Groups of enemies do nothing to assist they're friends. Usually don't even run.
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Re: Bug? Nobody fights back.
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2014, 07:26:59 pm »

Yes, it looks like there's still a long road left before reactions will make sense again like they were in 34.11
It's funny for a couple of play, but after that it's really detrimental to feeling immersed in the world unfortunately.
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Re: Bug? Nobody fights back.
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2014, 08:42:03 pm »

It's strange, on my various titans battles, i never had one of them running away, but most of my allies always ran in terror

A while back, I had one fire based titan which kept running away, not sure if it was afraid of it's own fire or it's attack.
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Re: Bug? Nobody fights back.
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2014, 08:47:27 pm »

Even in 34.11 there would occasionally be abnormalities in the ai. 
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Re: Bug? Nobody fights back.
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2014, 09:05:34 pm »

Remember to report on bug tracker with the saved game when you run into a case of broken reactions, best way to have hopefully one day the problems fixed
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