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ragincajun

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Bath house and wells
« on: August 25, 2014, 12:56:56 pm »

Two questions I am looking for help on here..

1. Wells: I've watched several videos on setting up wells.  Every single one has a river that they pull from.  All I have are several small murky ponds in my locale.  Can I still build a well?  Should I?  In setting it up I'm guessing it's similar in design except I will likely have to link up to 2-3 ponds (or more) to fill a cistern inside my fortress.  This would just entail running more shafts and setting more floodgates would it not?  Also, is there a way to capture rain water in a cistern?

2. The second thing is a bath house.  It's ONLY referred to in the Cleans Self part of the wiki and references a dwarf getting caught in "repulsive goo".  I am in a calm environment but (and I saw another post on this over the weekend) there is still times where I get "It is raining malodorous filth" but other times it's the normal "It has started raining".
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Re: Bath house and wells
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2014, 01:11:34 pm »

First worry about the well, dwarves will clean at a well when they are dirty.

Yes, you can have the cistern fill up with murky pond water, the well makes murky water automagically clean.
But only murky pond-floors can fill up with rain water, nothing else, it's a gamey thing.

Some people set up pond-zones to be filled with 3/7 water maximum, somewhere in a hallway. This is shallow enough that dwarves just walk through, but it will also clear contaminants.

I myself put a little moat around my well, disconnected from the cistern, and overlay that with grates. Then, if you have contaminant spreading, they'll stick to the grates and no further.
Put a little soap stockpile near your well, and you have yourself a basic well-functioning bath house.

If you want to get opulent, waterfalls generate mist, and mist atomsmashes contaminants+gives a huge happiness boost.

So create a well, then create a bunch of waterfalls that crash down on the best statues you can put down, surround the whole thing with a grate moat to flush away the leftover water, add a soap stockpile nearby. Designate the well as a meeting place(or statue garden), watch your dwarves get really happy and really clean... and throw a ton of parties in your bathhouse, grinding your fort to a halt. ;)
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ragincajun

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Re: Bath house and wells
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2014, 01:19:01 pm »

I don't doubt that.  Waterfalls and soap...haven't gotten anywhere near that far yet..lol.
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« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2014, 01:42:03 pm »

You are better off breaching a cavern and building a well over one of the lakes in them. I've seen people say that wells don't really clean stagnant water, they just force the dwarves to drink it anyway.

That's less difficult than it sounds (although more difficult than making soap). You just dig down until you get a message that you found a cave. Then you just dig a shaft at a convenient location over an underground lake and build a well over it.

That's basically how I make my bath houses. Which are just pretty rooms with a few wells and soap in them.
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« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2014, 02:18:12 pm »

I don't think wells clean stagnant water, but screw pumps do.  Dig your well out however you want it, then channel almost all the way from the pond and pump the water in. 

Since you didn't mention a river or other source of fresh water on the map, having a well is pretty important.  It may seem like a lot of trouble to set it up now, but it gets easier the more you do it.  Caverns aren't guaranteed to contain water, and leaving an open shaft for your well can lead to fun, so I would learn how to get water from murky pools anyway.  But if you need a water source right now, it's certainly easier.
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« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2014, 03:11:31 pm »

But look out! If you drain whole water from murkly pool, it will have with replenish himself. Try use some automation! Dig a channel, smaller than your pool and put screw pump to check, if it's replenishable from rain. Then just add some pressure plates connected to doors/floodgates to make auto replenishable cistern underground cistern. Make full closed fortress with fully automated savage system. I had whole fortress dedicated to it.  I had agregaded above 56000 units of free water. First automated systems will make you very, very happy. Your dwarves can be happy too. Just after battle, when everyone are miserable, relase your tanks with storaged water to make happymist and clean theyself from contamination. Looks good, and it's quite fun. If you do some math, you will figureout how big your watertanks must be to make happy whole fortress.
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« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2014, 04:19:36 pm »

But look out! If you drain whole water from murkly pool, it will have with replenish himself. Try use some automation! Dig a channel, smaller than your pool and put screw pump to check, if it's replenishable from rain. Then just add some pressure plates connected to doors/floodgates to make auto replenishable cistern underground cistern. Make full closed fortress with fully automated savage system. I had whole fortress dedicated to it.  I had agregaded above 56000 units of free water. First automated systems will make you very, very happy. Your dwarves can be happy too. Just after battle, when everyone are miserable, relase your tanks with storaged water to make happymist and clean theyself from contamination. Looks good, and it's quite fun. If you do some math, you will figureout how big your watertanks must be to make happy whole fortress.
Way beyond my ability level right now.  I've never even built a well before and this is taking forever...lol.
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« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2014, 07:37:49 pm »

Something I like to do is build drainage lines to all my murky pools into a little cistern (you can mine out the tunnels most of the way during the warmer months then just connect them once the ponds freeze in winter). This first cistern is hooked up to a screw pump to a second cistern so I can clean out the water for my well.

I throw a floodgate and a raised bridge in the last little bit of the drain pipe (baddies would have to be no breathe building destroyers to get through :) ).

I try to put the well in the hospital because that's where most of the water goes anyways.

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« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2014, 07:58:29 pm »

Yes, you can have the cistern fill up with murky pond water, the well makes murky water automagically clean.
They only clean salty water (bug.) You need to filter murky water with a screw pump to prevent bad thoughts.
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