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CancerousCthulhu

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Building Destroyer+Support=???
« on: July 30, 2014, 01:51:01 pm »
I checked the wiki and couldn't find whether building destroyers of the level 2 variety can destroy supports?

I want to know because I would just love it if this forgotten beast would break a support on its own and kill itself with a cave-in trap seeing how it has poisonous vapors...
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Re: Building Destroyer+Support=???
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2014, 02:14:06 pm »
Yes I believe this is a fairly common way of dealing with FBs.
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Re: Building Destroyer+Support=???
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2014, 02:18:52 pm »
Quote from: CatButcher on July 30, 2014, 02:14:06 pm
Yes I believe this is a fairly common way of dealing with FBs.

Thanks for the reply, I just didn't know whether I would need a lever or just to let the thing go about its business and kill itself. Hurrah for supports being breakable!
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Quote from: Pufferfish on August 15, 2014, 04:00:20 pm
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Re: Building Destroyer+Support=???
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2014, 02:56:15 pm »
Hmm... it bypassed the support entirely. I don't think they can actually destroy them.
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Quote from: Pufferfish on August 15, 2014, 04:00:20 pm
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Re: Building Destroyer+Support=???
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2014, 03:05:04 pm »
What material was the support made out of?
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Re: Building Destroyer+Support=???
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2014, 03:16:05 pm »
Quote from: Witty on July 30, 2014, 03:05:04 pm
What material was the support made out of?

It was made from a stoneware brick (brick made from fire clay). Those count as normal stone blocks (I think) so it shouldn't have been any different.  :-\
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Quote from: Pufferfish on August 15, 2014, 04:00:20 pm
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Re: Building Destroyer+Support=???
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2014, 03:16:45 pm »
Only "undead" (NOT_LIVING, which includes beasts made of inorganic materials) building destroyers go after supports, and they only go after wooden supports.
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Re: Building Destroyer+Support=???
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2014, 03:43:54 pm »
Quote from: Quietust on July 30, 2014, 03:16:45 pm
Only "undead" (NOT_LIVING, which includes beasts made of inorganic materials) building destroyers go after supports, and they only go after wooden supports.

Hm.. that's very strange behavior. Thanks for the info though!
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Re: Building Destroyer+Support=???
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2014, 04:15:25 pm »
Quote from: CancerousCthulhu on July 30, 2014, 03:43:54 pm
Hm.. that's very strange behavior.
It's how building destroyers have always behaved, even back in the days of Boatmurdered. I don't claim to understand why they act that way, but I've analyzed the code closely enough to know that they do behave that way.
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Quote from: Lord Dakoth on September 17, 2009, 10:47:58 pm
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Re: Building Destroyer+Support=???
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2014, 06:21:55 pm »
Wiki should be tweaked slightly to reflect this behavior if it's not already. Last I checked (which was a while ago) it gave the impression that all building destroyers went after supports. Which is clearly not the case.

That IS freaking weird though.
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Re: Building Destroyer+Support=???
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2014, 10:55:32 pm »
As far as I recall, they'll go after supports so long as there's nothing else to go after.  If they travel towards your fort, do not encounter a fortress creature (dwarf, dog, etc), and encounter a support, they'll start to destroy it.

BUILDING_DESTROYER:1 is limited to wooden doors, furniture, etc.
BUILDING_DESTROYER:2 can go after any non-terrain building of any material.

Small wooden supports with 1 floor are useful as troll traps.
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