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Mr.Pylon

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Smelter options redded out after reclaim
« on: July 21, 2014, 12:51:11 pm »

Hey guys, I ran a fortress for a little under a year in-game on .40.04 before it got sieged and everyone slaughtered but because I liked the site I went for a reclaim. I've reclaimed all the items that my dwarves can reach, leaving out things in trees and things in the first cavern, but I can't smelt anything.

I've made about 50 bars of charcoal, I've got hematite and magnetite ore mined both fresh from this reclaim and from the previous attempt, I've built new smelters, I've saved and reloaded, I've doubled checked that none of the doors are restricted, there are no burrows, and I still can't smelt anything. In the previous game I could smelt, and I've been using the leftover iron bars from that game to forge with no problem.

So... has anyone heard of this problem and has a suggestion for fixing it?
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Re: Smelter options redded out after reclaim
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2014, 01:05:25 pm »

did you link any stockpiles to the smelters? If you link one, you must link all.
For example, if you only link a coal stockpile to it it will not be able to get metal ore from anywhere that's not a linked stockpile
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Re: Smelter options redded out after reclaim
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2014, 01:11:11 pm »

Nope, there are no bar stockpiles set up and I have not linked any others.
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Re: Smelter options redded out after reclaim
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2014, 01:15:30 pm »

I suppose if you haven't already, reporting it on the bug tracker sounds like a good idea.

Have you tried ordering stuff to be smelted via the manager?
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Re: Smelter options redded out after reclaim
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2014, 01:24:36 pm »

Have you checked whether the stuff is still forbidden?
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Re: Smelter options redded out after reclaim
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2014, 01:28:50 pm »

All of the ore was reclaimed with the d-b-c thing. I made my expedition leader the manager and those jobs go through just fine, I'm sitting on a few iron bars at the moment and more are on their way. If the problem doesn't resolve itself I guess that I'll have to stick to the manager for smelting.
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Re: Smelter options redded out after reclaim
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2014, 02:09:03 pm »

Make sure the smelter itself is not forbidden.  (Press t to examine its components.)

Make sure the fuel and the ore are both available (not forbidden, correctly stockpiled if the smelter has stockpile links).

Make sure that if any burrows exist at all (regardless of whether dwarves are assigned to them), that the fuel and ore are both inside the burrow(s).
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Re: Smelter options redded out after reclaim
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2014, 08:30:37 pm »

Probably going to submit this as a bug because there are no bar stockpiles, no links for any of my existing stockpiles, none of the hematite or the buildings are forbidden, I dismantled and rebuilt wood burning and smelting workshops many times, there are no burrows, and it doesn't seem to matter if I mine new hematite ore. I even had dwarves dismantle the smelter and drag hematite to a garbage pile right next to a newly built smelter, unforbid the hematite and even then the smelter won't accept it. The only way to get things smelted now is to schedule it with the manager.

Also weirdly during the reclaim my new miners wouldn't pick up pickaxes and mine until I switched them to woodcutting, let them cut down a tree or two, and then switched them back.
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« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2014, 07:18:24 am »

Also weirdly during the reclaim my new miners wouldn't pick up pickaxes and mine until I switched them to woodcutting, let them cut down a tree or two, and then switched them back.

That particular bug sounds like a behavior I've seen in a mod (Masterwork mod, kobold race, shovel that wears out after a week).  When the shovel wears out while equipped, the game doesn't seem to "recognize" that the shovel is gone, and the kobold should pick up a new one.  The workaround is the disable her mining labor, then re-enable it.  This makes her grab a new shovel.

Maybe the game "thinks" your dwarf still has her pickaxe, when she really doesn't.  Your workaround is the same, so the bug might also be the same.
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