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EveryZig

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Black, fast moving magma
« on: June 11, 2014, 07:11:24 pm »

Something I saw today that immediately made me think of Dwarf Fortress: http://www.wired.com/2014/03/strangest-magma-earth-carbonatites-oldoinyo-lengai/
One active volcano and several inactive ones have magma with an unusual composition that makes it black when liquid, white when solid, much less viscous and at a lower temperature than regular magma.
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Re: Black, fast moving magma
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2014, 08:16:44 pm »

Reminds me of Oil for some reason.
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Re: Black, fast moving magma
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2014, 12:36:18 am »

I've been trying to start an embark near a volcano.

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Re: Black, fast moving magma
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2014, 12:52:35 am »

Neat.
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Re: Black, fast moving magma
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2014, 03:38:27 am »

That stuff is awesome. I want a moat made of it.

I've been trying to start an embark near a volcano.
Use advanced worldgen and set "desired volcano number" to 40 or something.
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Re: Black, fast moving magma
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2014, 04:13:18 am »

That stuff is awesome. I want a moat made of it.

I've been trying to start an embark near a volcano.
Use advanced worldgen and set "desired volcano number" to 40 or something.
The hard part is getting a volcano, plus a river, on a small embark.

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Re: Black, fast moving magma
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2014, 04:35:51 am »

Is that lava foam? That's amazing.

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Re: Black, fast moving magma
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2014, 08:43:05 am »

Does less viscosity mean less energy to move it up a pump stack?  ???
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Re: Black, fast moving magma
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2014, 09:53:42 am »

That's pretty cool, I'd never seen that before. I like the crackling bubbling sound it makes. Weird how it can spray out like a water hose.
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Re: Black, fast moving magma
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2014, 10:12:40 am »

Correction: it's lava. It's only called magma is when it's under the surface.
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Re: Black, fast moving magma
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2014, 10:29:18 am »

Does less viscosity mean less energy to move it up a pump stack?  ???

Lower viscosity means lower resistance to flow, which translates in less energy reuired to make it flow.
However in the case of vertical pump stacks a more important factor is the density, becasue the weight is the resistance to go up.
I dont know if there is a diference of density between this lava and normal lava.

Anyway, if someone can touch it with a foot and survive this lava is not dorfy enough.

ALL HAIL BLUE LAVA!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8d3_Af3EPc

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Re: Black, fast moving magma
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2014, 12:17:43 pm »

Does less viscosity mean less energy to move it up a pump stack?  ???

Lower viscosity means lower resistance to flow, which translates in less energy reuired to make it flow.
However in the case of vertical pump stacks a more important factor is the density, becasue the weight is the resistance to go up.
I dont know if there is a diference of density between this lava and normal lava.

Anyway, if someone can touch it with a foot and survive this lava is not dorfy enough.

ALL HAIL BLUE LAVA!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8d3_Af3EPc

Completely missed the 'magma-safe shoe' poke :o I still wouldn't touch it with my foot though...

Also... duh... viscosity and density are independent of eachother. Probably would make a poor lava lamp though..
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Re: Black, fast moving magma
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2014, 04:13:03 pm »

ALL HAIL BLUE LAVA!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8d3_Af3EPc
Neat. Looking it up,  it isn't the lava that is blue; the lave is actually covered in fire which is blue due to the sulfur. (http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/why-does-indonesian-volcano-burn-bright-blue-180949576/?no-ist).
I think being ‼lava‼ is even dwarfier than just being blue itself.
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Re: Black, fast moving magma
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2014, 08:19:40 am »

That stuff is awesome. I want a moat made of it.

I've been trying to start an embark near a volcano.
Use advanced worldgen and set "desired volcano number" to 40 or something.
The hard part is getting a volcano, plus a river, on a small embark.

search for the world gen cook book, there are a few examples of small embarks with volcanos and streams/rivers together. Believe I've seen a 2x2 embark with both features.
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« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2014, 09:46:35 am »

So basically a volcano of soda ash and limestone. Weird. I'd assume it's probably something like a normal intrusive lava plume that gets close to but doesn't touch some sedimentary rock in just the right place where it can melt it through the division and make it erupt separately?
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