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JerDGold

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Having Trouble Trading
« on: May 12, 2014, 03:45:11 pm »

So this is a problem I've been having for awhile now, but I thought it would fix itself, as thing tend to do in DF sometimes.  I have bins full of awesome crafts, encrusted with shiny jewels.  But fpor some reason, when I have traders at my depot, they are not listed as options to bring to the depot.  There's usually one bin listed, but with nothing in it.  What are some common things people do wrong that make this happen?

I've tried canceling all crafting/encrusting operations so the bins are being used by anyone, and that hasn't helped...
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Krawdad

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Re: Having Trouble Trading
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2014, 03:55:19 pm »

It might be that a noble has forbid certain items from being exported and the "Culling by (m)andate" option in the trade window is enabled, which it is by default. Change the setting to ignore mandate and you should be able to see the bins. Once the bins are at the depot, the forbidden exports should appear as a distinct color (purple by default maybe?) so you can see what is safe to trade or not.
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Re: Having Trouble Trading
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2014, 05:30:05 pm »

The other possible reason is that the bins are in transit. If for any reason Urist and friends are taking them on (a neverending) tour of the craft workshops then they'll never be there for trade - This is particular issue with small lightweight items.

If you set the stockpiles 0 bins then the dwarves will be forced to leave them lying around and they'll show up on the trade screen again.

Personally;- 0 the max bins in all effected stockpiles, find the bins and individually dump the contents you want to keep, then either burn or sell the rest on mass (to the humans or dwarves - sell the whole bin, not the contents or the traders will never finishing packing up). Until Bins start behaving like shelves they're more annoying than they're worth.
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Re: Having Trouble Trading
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2014, 06:36:39 pm »

This happened to me. Ignore the mandates :O Your noble is probably banning the trading of crutches or amulets or something dumb like that, which therefore makes the ENTIRE BIN not show up without culling on the mandates.
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Re: Having Trouble Trading
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2014, 08:46:05 am »

This is somewhat uncommon, but I'm going to mention it because it did happen to me and drove me nuts.

One of my carpenters got a mood and crafted an artifact bin. It got moved to the stockpile where I kept goods for trading and all the goods were subsequently piled in it. Because you can't trade artifacts, the bin of goods did not show up in the list, and I could only get to them through the list of everything in the fort in the trade menu and select them individually.
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JerDGold

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Re: Having Trouble Trading
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2014, 01:36:27 pm »

The other possible reason is that the bins are in transit. If for any reason Urist and friends are taking them on (a neverending) tour of the craft workshops then they'll never be there for trade - This is particular issue with small lightweight items.

If you set the stockpiles 0 bins then the dwarves will be forced to leave them lying around and they'll show up on the trade screen again.

Personally;- 0 the max bins in all effected stockpiles, find the bins and individually dump the contents you want to keep, then either burn or sell the rest on mass (to the humans or dwarves - sell the whole bin, not the contents or the traders will never finishing packing up). Until Bins start behaving like shelves they're more annoying than they're worth.

Thanks! Setting my stockpile to zero bins worked...and created a NEW problem! FUN!  (My fun isn't quite the same as everyone elses fun just yet)  I pissed off the human trader (don't care) and he wouldn't trade with me (don't care) and he left without buying any goods (don't care).  But now my bins are just sitting at the depot!  I did tell my stockpile to re-allow bins, and hoped my dwarves would stick them back in there, but they just stay in the depot.  In reality it's fine because I'm going to trade them when the dwarven caravan shows up eventually, but my OCD nature wants them in the stockpiles where they belong in the meantime so I can look at them when I feel lonely.
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Re: Having Trouble Trading
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2014, 05:21:53 pm »

The other possible reason is that the bins are in transit. If for any reason Urist and friends are taking them on (a neverending) tour of the craft workshops then they'll never be there for trade - This is particular issue with small lightweight items.

If you set the stockpiles 0 bins then the dwarves will be forced to leave them lying around and they'll show up on the trade screen again.

Personally;- 0 the max bins in all effected stockpiles, find the bins and individually dump the contents you want to keep, then either burn or sell the rest on mass (to the humans or dwarves - sell the whole bin, not the contents or the traders will never finishing packing up). Until Bins start behaving like shelves they're more annoying than they're worth.

Thanks! Setting my stockpile to zero bins worked...and created a NEW problem! FUN!  (My fun isn't quite the same as everyone elses fun just yet)  I pissed off the human trader (don't care) and he wouldn't trade with me (don't care) and he left without buying any goods (don't care).  But now my bins are just sitting at the depot!  I did tell my stockpile to re-allow bins, and hoped my dwarves would stick them back in there, but they just stay in the depot.  In reality it's fine because I'm going to trade them when the dwarven caravan shows up eventually, but my OCD nature wants them in the stockpiles where they belong in the meantime so I can look at them when I feel lonely.

Empty bins go in furniture stockpiles IIRC
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Re: Having Trouble Trading
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2014, 09:14:04 pm »

The other possible reason is that the bins are in transit. If for any reason Urist and friends are taking them on (a neverending) tour of the craft workshops then they'll never be there for trade - This is particular issue with small lightweight items.

If you set the stockpiles 0 bins then the dwarves will be forced to leave them lying around and they'll show up on the trade screen again.

Personally;- 0 the max bins in all effected stockpiles, find the bins and individually dump the contents you want to keep, then either burn or sell the rest on mass (to the humans or dwarves - sell the whole bin, not the contents or the traders will never finishing packing up). Until Bins start behaving like shelves they're more annoying than they're worth.

Thanks! Setting my stockpile to zero bins worked...and created a NEW problem! FUN!  (My fun isn't quite the same as everyone elses fun just yet)  I pissed off the human trader (don't care) and he wouldn't trade with me (don't care) and he left without buying any goods (don't care).  But now my bins are just sitting at the depot!  I did tell my stockpile to re-allow bins, and hoped my dwarves would stick them back in there, but they just stay in the depot.  In reality it's fine because I'm going to trade them when the dwarven caravan shows up eventually, but my OCD nature wants them in the stockpiles where they belong in the meantime so I can look at them when I feel lonely.

Empty bins go in furniture stockpiles IIRC

You remember correctly. Not that you'll ever have empty bins if you have a rock block industry.
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