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[GavJ]

With about 50 clowns having a party around it, and exploding etc. in various ways as I shot at them with crossbows, after about 20 minutes of gameplay, the artifact furniture I was luring with was destroyed, and they obviously and instantaneously spread out around the room all at once. It was not just deconstructed, and there were no dwarves even capable of getting in the room.

?

[neblime]

was it something that can burn?  while indestructable to building destroyers body temperature and fiery deaths (also fireballs I suppose?) can set wooden furniture on fire, and if this was what you had it seems that you've discovered artifact quality doesn't protect against that.
edit- can charcoal/refined coal stuff be set on fire?

[GavJ]

Nope, it was a talc table.

Mind you, talc is not super heat resistant, so if fire damage is enough to destroy a wooden artifact on fire, then conceivably repeated fire damage directly might melt talc? Or something? But I was under the impression that even flaming wooden artifacts were invulnerable, or at least lasted wayyyyy longer than like 2 in game months.

I had the table surrounded by about 25 steel spear traps (with magmaproof quartzite mechanisms) and was shooting them at the same time. About half the spears are still intact and functioning, even, but not the table. The other half the spears are broken, which is also a little odd seeming? Probably the same damage source. It's not random, either. It's like... the left half are gone, the right half are okay.

There were some clowns that were popping into weird flamey deaths, like little mini explosions when they went down. Is it possible to get procedurally generated dragonfire??

Also, some of their body parts were perpetually on fire or fire-hot, and were strewn everywhere.

[neblime]

well i'm not exactly sure what the maximum temperature clowns can have is, but talc is magma proof at least, so now i'm not so sure 

[GavJ]

Theory:

Maybe artifacts are only immune to DAMAGE, like literally, damage, stuff called "damage" in the raws and code.  But they are no immune to boiling or melting away. Thus, a wooden artifact might actually be stronger than a talc one, because wood has:

[IGNITE_POINT:10508]
[MELTING_POINT:NONE]
[BOILING_POINT:NONE]
[HEATDAM_POINT:10250]
[COLDDAM_POINT:9900]
^
So it cannot ever melt or boil...


Talc, like all normal stone, boils at 14,000 and it in particular melts at 12,700.  So if a clown can generate, say, 20,000 urists, and stands right by or on top of the thing for like, 2 months, it could eventually rise hot enough to melt and/or boil, destroying it? Without ever sustaining "damage"

[nanomage]

is it still displayed in the artifacts menu? (l, iirc)

[FallenAngel]

Seems plausible.
Might be something Toady will address in the next update, making artifacts impossible to melt by way of creatures.
Maybe being an actual artifact (not just a named item) will give them no melting/boiling point?

[Quietust]

Theory:

Maybe artifacts are only immune to DAMAGE, like literally, damage, stuff called "damage" in the raws and code.  But they are no immune to boiling or melting away.

That's pretty much exactly how it works - artifacts are immune to "wear" (i.e. damage from heat, cold, fire, or time), but they are not immune to being melted or boiled.