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Isn't a Mayor a bit Redundant Once You're a Barony?
« on: February 21, 2014, 01:05:16 am »

I am quickly climbing the ranks of nobility. I have just become a County and have my Countess nestled in a spectacular tower... But my mayor is giving me a headache. I have mandates coming from both of them. The Countess is easy to please (give her some Rope Weed. Bitch loves Rope Weed), but the mayor is making outrageous demands like slade socks.

I can replace him, yeah; but the nutjob is so popular, he just gets re-elected again. This fort isn't big enough for two leaders. Especially if one of them is batshit insane.
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Re: Isn't a Mayor a bit Redundant Once You're a Barony?
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2014, 01:17:22 am »

Make him walk the plank!
Seriously though, I believe that the Mayor still has to listen to prissy dorfs while the Baron/Count/Duke gets the meetings.
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Re: Isn't a Mayor a bit Redundant Once You're a Barony?
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2014, 02:16:49 am »

In the industry, we like to cause what are known as unfortunate accidents for the betterment of our society. Your mayor could do with one.

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Re: Isn't a Mayor a bit Redundant Once You're a Barony?
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2014, 03:04:15 am »

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Re: Isn't a Mayor a bit Redundant Once You're a Barony?
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2014, 07:20:19 am »

I am quickly climbing the ranks of nobility. I have just become a County and have my Countess nestled in a spectacular tower... But my mayor is giving me a headache. I have mandates coming from both of them. The Countess is easy to please (give her some Rope Weed. Bitch loves Rope Weed), but the mayor is making outrageous demands like slade socks.

This sounds wrong. In .34.11, nobles can only mandate _items_ (say, ropes or socks), never materials.

A mayor can also only have one active mandate at a time, so you can drag your feet about fulfilling a production mandate and never need to satisfy your mayor's wishes more than about twice per year. Production mandates seem to have a time-out of about half a year, perhaps a bit more - just check mandates from time to time and get it done when the indicator's colour changes to yellow or red.

The mayor is still required to pacify and console unhappy citizens, that's the responsibility of the "leader", not of landed nobility. And of course, once the nobility dies out (which sort of easily happens currently, with only one proper noble and no inheritance), the position of negotiator/diplomat falls back to the mayor.

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I can replace him, yeah; but the nutjob is so popular, he just gets re-elected again.

So? Just replace the dwarf again. It's a simple action of perhaps a dozen keypresses once per year. Replacing a mayor is less work than setting up a two-one-stop minecart route. Are you sure it's a he? In my fort, mayoral positions are inevitably hogged by mothers of many children - they get unbelievable amounts of socialising just from having to handle their squealing spawn all the time.

You can slowly edge other socialisers out of the mayoral spot by giving them jobs where they have less time to socialise, but with multi-mothers, there's not much (non-monstrous) you can do.
« Last Edit: February 21, 2014, 07:23:33 am by Larix »
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Re: Isn't a Mayor a bit Redundant Once You're a Barony?
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2014, 11:04:54 am »

You can burrow children as long as the burrow contains their own personal bedrooms.

You can also use creatures with the [CAN_LEARN] token -- in the default game, your only options are tigermen and plump helmet men. Tigermen can either be captured and tamed by the fortress or brought already tamed by the elves, and require meat or meat-containing prepared meals plus an open water source to survive. Plump helmet men don't need any such care, and will probably turn up sooner or later in the caverns.

Non-dwarven mayors will not make any mandates, and because they don't get good or bad thoughts they don't care about not being assigned any rooms.
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Re: Isn't a Mayor a bit Redundant Once You're a Barony?
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2014, 04:18:26 pm »

Do plump helmet men pee dwarven wine?

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Re: Isn't a Mayor a bit Redundant Once You're a Barony?
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2014, 05:22:09 pm »

If they did, they'd always be elected mayor.
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Re: Isn't a Mayor a bit Redundant Once You're a Barony?
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2014, 07:03:00 pm »

(give her some Rope Weed. Bitch loves Rope Weed)

BITCHES LOVE WEED.
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