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Author Topic: [Mostly Dwarf] Mithril Refining - Cold Hammering vs Crucible (v3e)  (Read 914 times)

Felius

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Refining mithril:

I was looking at the raws, the refining native mithril seems to be more efficient when done at the finishing forge with the cold hammering reaction that at the crucible with the refining reaction. Specifically:

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[REACTION:RAW_MITHRIL_MITHRIL]
[NAME:extract mithril from raw mithril]
[BUILDING:CRUCIBLE:CUSTOM_M][BUILDING:MAGMA_CRUCIBLE:CUSTOM_E]
[REAGENT:A:3:BOULDER:NONE:INORGANIC:RAW_MITHRIL]
[PRODUCT:100:1:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:METAL:MITHRIL]
[PRODUCT:50:1:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:METAL:MITHRIL]
[PRODUCT:10:1:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:METAL:MITHRIL]
   YESSLAGPIT[PRODUCT:100:1:TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_SLAG:INORGANIC:SLAG]
[/quote]

[code][REACTION:COLD_MITHRIL]
[NAME:cold hammer mithril]
[BUILDING:FINISHING_FORGE:CUSTOM_ALT_M]
[REAGENT:A:1:BOULDER:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE][REACTION_CLASS:MITHRIL]
[PRODUCT:100:1:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:METAL:MITHRIL][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150]
Essentially, the crucible have a 1.6 bar expected product per 3 boulders, or 0.533 bars per boulder, while the cold hammering outright give a 1 bar per boulder, and not only that, the crucible also requires fuel, which means either magma or coke/charcoal.

Is this the intended result?
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Meph

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Re: [Mostly Dwarf] Mithril Refining - Cold Hammering vs Crucible (v3e)
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2013, 11:01:52 pm »

And if you check the entity file (or tried this ingame), you'd seen that cold hammering of mithril is not even enabled. ;)

Only reactions active are:
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[PERMITTED_REACTION:COLD_COPPER]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:COLD_TIN]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:COLD_ZINC]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:COLD_BISMUTH]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:COLD_BRONZE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:COLD_SILVER]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:COLD_GOLD]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:COLD_IRON]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:COLD_ALUMINUM]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:COLD_PLATINUM]
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Re: [Mostly Dwarf] Mithril Refining - Cold Hammering vs Crucible (v3e)
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2013, 11:37:18 pm »

And if you check the entity file (or tried this ingame), you'd seen that cold hammering of mithril is not even enabled. ;)

Only reactions active are:
Code: [Select]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:COLD_COPPER]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:COLD_TIN]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:COLD_ZINC]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:COLD_BISMUTH]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:COLD_BRONZE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:COLD_SILVER]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:COLD_GOLD]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:COLD_IRON]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:COLD_ALUMINUM]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:COLD_PLATINUM]
Oh... That does explain it. Sorry, don't really mess a lot with the finishing forge.  :-[
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Re: [Mostly Dwarf] Mithril Refining - Cold Hammering vs Crucible (v3e)
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2013, 11:53:33 pm »

Yeah, honestly, Its a pretty useless workshop. I always want to add some sort of metal-folding to it, but never quite figured out a nice system for that.
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Re: [Mostly Dwarf] Mithril Refining - Cold Hammering vs Crucible (v3e)
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2013, 12:10:04 am »

Yeah, honestly, Its a pretty useless workshop. I always want to add some sort of metal-folding to it, but never quite figured out a nice system for that.
You could allow it to inefficiently make things from metal, so not only you cold hammer ores into bars, but the bars into blades and the like. Just make it really expensive in terms of bars for only those who really want to remain "fuelless" do so. :P
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