Bay 12 Games Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

Author Topic: Artifacts counting twice?  (Read 902 times)

Juxtap0se

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Artifacts counting twice?
« on: August 11, 2013, 02:21:38 pm »
why does my artifact mace count twice in the fort's total value? It is counted in the "weapons" category and also in the "held/worn" category.

p.s. haha! first artifact of the fort and my brand new migrant weaponsmith moods within one month of showing up. Grabs the only steel bar I have and crafts an amazing steel mace.
Logged
I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three.
Elayne Boosler

Juxtap0se

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Artifacts counting twice?
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2013, 02:28:39 pm »
Logged
I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three.
Elayne Boosler

AutomataKittay

  • Bay Watcher
  • Grinding gears
    • View Profile
Re: Artifacts counting twice?
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2013, 02:34:56 pm »
Huh, I'm pretty sure each value counts are separate, since some artifacts can be used in buildings and so on. Each category counts their own and the total counts everything, I believes.

Quote from: Juxtap0se on August 11, 2013, 02:28:39 pm
http://imgur.com/4bC8xtc
http://imgur.com/yijwI9y

Well, I double-checked with a calculator, you're right. That's pretty interesting, wonder if a bug or an incentive for enemies to attack.
Logged

Nyxalinth

  • Bay Watcher
  • [LIKES_FIGHTING]
    • View Profile
    • My facebook page.
Re: Artifacts counting twice?
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2013, 03:38:45 pm »
My first thought is while it lists it twice, it isn't valued in twice.  Looks like I was wrong, though.  I have to second it's a bug.
Logged
Nyxalinth likes the color blue, gaming, writing, art, cats for their aloofness,  Transformers for their sentience and ability to transform, and the Constructicons for their hard work and building skills. Whenever possible, she prefers to consume bacon cheeseburgers and pinot noir. She absolutely detests stupid people.

Afghani84

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Artifacts counting twice?
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2013, 04:10:03 pm »
is the mace equipped? if so, it should count both as weapon and as worn/held. that's at least what happens if I craft weapons/armor and have my dwarves equip them.
Logged

Juxtap0se

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Artifacts counting twice?
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2013, 05:39:40 pm »
Quote from: Afghani84 on August 11, 2013, 04:10:03 pm
is the mace equipped? if so, it should count both as weapon and as worn/held. that's at least what happens if I craft weapons/armor and have my dwarves equip them.
yep it's equipped.
Logged
I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three.
Elayne Boosler

Afghani84

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Artifacts counting twice?
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2013, 05:56:57 pm »
Quote from: Juxtap0se on August 11, 2013, 05:39:40 pm
Quote from: Afghani84 on August 11, 2013, 04:10:03 pm
is the mace equipped? if so, it should count both as weapon and as worn/held. that's at least what happens if I craft weapons/armor and have my dwarves equip them.
yep it's equipped.
then it is not a bug as far as I'm concerned. it makes sense that the wealth the liaison reports back to the mountain home should be higher if your dwarves are actually wearing created artifacts. thus the value is counted twice as opposed to once if they are lying around in some stockpile. it works similar with furniture: if you craft a statue and store it in a stockpile, your wealth increases by its value. if you take that statue though and put it in your dining hall, its value is tripled (initial value under furniture + architecture + displayed).
Logged

AutomataKittay

  • Bay Watcher
  • Grinding gears
    • View Profile
Re: Artifacts counting twice?
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2013, 06:10:07 pm »
Quote from: Afghani84 on August 11, 2013, 05:56:57 pm
Quote from: Juxtap0se on August 11, 2013, 05:39:40 pm
Quote from: Afghani84 on August 11, 2013, 04:10:03 pm
is the mace equipped? if so, it should count both as weapon and as worn/held. that's at least what happens if I craft weapons/armor and have my dwarves equip them.
yep it's equipped.
then it is not a bug as far as I'm concerned. it makes sense that the wealth the liaison reports back to the mountain home should be higher if your dwarves are actually wearing created artifacts. thus the value is counted twice as opposed to once if they are lying around in some stockpile. it works similar with furniture: if you craft a statue and store it in a stockpile, your wealth increases by its value. if you take that statue though and put it in your dining hall, its value is tripled (initial value under furniture + architecture + displayed).

Yeah, I have some suspicion it's probably to encourage invaders to get the tasty tasty wealth with their sharp bits. It does makes some of the stat screen pretty misleading and annoying to figure out.

Pretty interesting I've not noticed it before, myself, I usually keep an eye on wealth of my fortress, huh.
Logged