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[siprus]

What's up with that? They just sit in meeting are doing nothing even though they had job they could have done. Had plenty of dwarven rum on upper floor.

[matskuman5]

Do you have the dwarves in any burrows?

Is civilian alert on?

Does anyone else drink the rum?

Is the rum forbidden?

Are you sure they can get to the rum?

Is the rum in a stockpile?

[siprus]

I don't have no burrows in my new fortress. And everybody else has been drinking fine.

One of them seem to do fine now. (Well would expect he has been throwing tantrum all the time)

My guess is that they got depressed after having lost all their friends from previous fortress.

[Tirion]

Insane dwarves immigrate too, and they stay insane. A melancholic or stark raving mad dwarf would do just that.

[vanatteveldt]

I am too depressed to do any work. I am too depressed to go to the rafter and get food. And I hate this fortress! Let me just walk 1000 miles to a frontier fortress so I can sulk in a much nicer place!

[VerdantSF]

I really wish there was a non-magma cure for melancholy.  It would be great if the mayor had at least a small chance to cheer up even suicidal dwarves.

[siprus]

I guess i'm reviving my own thread, but i'd like to see this moved to suggestions or bug fixes.

Suggestion being: Dwarf which travel to new fortress should forget about their unfortunate past. (or make it have reduced effect, maybe -10 or -5 for bad memories. Maybe if dwarf friends don't die before fortress is abandoned he get +5 to +10 from found memories) Or give them intial bonus from getting to new fortress where things are looking relatively well +500 "optimistic views about future" of course this should be reduced quickly, but gradually to zero for every bad thought. (-50 for every time he gets hungry, -100 being target of tantrum, -200 for being attacked by hostile forces, -1 or -2 for minor mischief, which will eventually grind it down to zero so your dwarfs don't get permanent optimism buff.)

[Dwarf Kitty]

I like this idea, especially once player-abandoned forts aren't destroyed.
 
Urist McMourner:  "I'm outta here.  Too many bad memories."
 
Urist migrates to new fort, happiness set to almost as mildly content as any other migrant.  Operative word almost.      Urist is optimistic, but still feels a bit of a dark cloud over him.
 
Then, add some small intensifying bonus to negative thoughts.  ("Schist.  I'm cursed.  Bad luck follows me.")  Alternatively, make the effects from bad thoughts slower to disappear.
 
This way, Urist the mourning migrant is still more likely to tantrum than a fresher migrant, but the player has more time to lock him in a luxurious suite before he does so.

[AutomataKittay]

I dunno, they probably recognize the fortress' being ran by same overseer and just snapped

Softening the bad feeling ( and good too! ) would be a nice feature as part of migranting though, and excluding the insanes from being able to.

[siprus]

Optimism buff is needed only if they keep some of their negative thought from previous fortress. Basically they become bit happier than average dwarf for a while, but that happiness will decrease really quickly if they encounter lots of bad things. If they lose optimism buff they are generally already quite unhappy + your fortress is probably at risk of tantrum spiral anyway (since you don't have enough food or dwarf are already throwing tantrum) I'm not sure if added bad thought are needed to make migrants balanced.