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[Furious Fish]

Do doors have different strengths depending on the material they're made out of? I tunneled into the magma flow a little too early, and now I'm worried about fire monsters breaking my stone doors down. If I build a steel door, will that hold them off?

[Mechanoid]

As of yet, it isn't known wether or not steel doors will last longer against attack then stone doors. If you really want to, you can, but you may end up wasting steel that could've gone into weaponry. The only known thing about steel is that steel floodgates are capable of closing when lava is flowing in the channel (regular stone floodgates break when they flood with lava) In any case, attackers will always break through doors and floodgates given enough time.

Personally, i'd use the 3 steel that would've gone into a steel door and use it for a steel spear, sword and axe, and then create a weapon trap using those 3 steel weapons. All placed in front of a stone door.

[Jaqie Fox]

Isn't it odd that the game is totally backwards of life in that magma melts steel but not stone?  My father works in the steel industry. they use bricks (which are like stone, it's a bit technical - they are actually a certain type of clay fired until they just begin to turn into a kind of glass... anyways) Steel and stone in the game seem to operate totally backwards of how they do in life, odd really how the game author chose to do this.

[Mechanoid]

Yeah. The melting point of iron is also higher then that of steel, so it shouldn't be a steel bridge that spans the magma river, but instead, an iron one.

Of course, such small technical details will probably be fixed later on; especially since not every fortress will be able to produce steel, or have magma rivers inside them.

[Jaqie Fox]

I think it was game balance that the author was after with that... game balance will change if that is implemented alone.

I hope that it will become much more difficult to span the magma river... perhaps you would need a steel built brick maker building, collecting sand and building many heat resistant bricks to build a bridge across the magma river.

[Toady One]

It wasn't an oversight, it was a game mechanic.  Now that magma isn't a preset obstacle, I can adjust this.  I liked forcing the player take time to set up a steel industry before seeing what lies beyond, but it won't be in the spirit of the game now that the guts of the mountain are different and more random.

[Carlos Gustavos]

quote:Originally posted by Mechanoid:
<STRONG>(regular stone floodgates break when they flood with lava) </STRONG>

Not true, stone floodgates and magma has always worked fine for me.

[TomTheHand]

quote:Originally posted by Carlos Gustavos:
<STRONG>
Not true, stone floodgates and magma has always worked fine for me.</STRONG>

Seriously, not sure where you got that.  Stone floodgates do not break or anything when used with magma.

[Another]

Well, that is not a big deal and not so important in a game but real-world platinum has a melting point at 1768 C, iron at 1538 C, it can be anywhere from 1538 to about 1400 C for steel depending on grade, copper - 1085 C,tin - 231 C,zinc - 420 C, various bronzes - at about 1000 C, various brasses - about 900 C, silver - 961 C, gold - 1063 C. Normal glass becomes soft at about 600 C, crystal glass at 530 C while quartz glass has an actual melting point at about 1100 C. Who knows - may be some of this will be implemented at some point.

[Faces of Mu]

Sorry to revive an old thread but it seems relevant here:

Does anyone know if the demons can destroy the magma river steel bridge? My first and only brunch with said demons seemed to indicate either "no" or "they're not interested". I would suspect, technically (that's in-game technically, not RL technically), that if the magma can't destroy the steel bridge, then the demons can't do it with their fiery claws, either.

I ask coz I'm interested in building a raised drawbridge defence on the other side of the river, perfectly sealing off their side and mine. Actually, I'm going to have two said bridges operating almost like pinball clappers: the first raised as a seal, the second to fling and trap demons, the first to squish survivors, raise again, the second to lower, squish and repeat. Just don't want to invest the steel if the demons can just chew through, anywho (though I don't intend to let them live long enough!).

Ta!

[Asehujiko]

A safer way is to build a stone splatbridge over every pit, link them up to the same lever and put it on repeat. Demons get pulverized as soon as they spawn without having time to destroy the bridge.