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crossmr

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Stockpile taking non-linked items
« on: June 16, 2013, 05:28:10 am »

I've been trying a management trick for managing clothes piles. One stockpile for good clothes, one for worn clothes and recovered clothes.

The good clothes has been set only take from links, only take from the clothiers shop.
The other stockpile, near the depot takes from everywhere.

The problem is I routinely find clothes that shouldn't be on the link only stockpile there. Like worn clothes or even foreign clothes. I just found a bin that had 4 or 5 different foreign clothes in it, and that's it. There is no way that came from the clothiers shop.

Any thoughts?
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Keldane

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Re: Stockpile taking non-linked items
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2013, 10:27:06 am »

Because it's a clothing bin, it may have been used to take clothes from the clothiers shop to the stockpile, where the locally-made clothes were snatched up by your dwarves. That's my best guess.
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Re: Stockpile taking non-linked items
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2013, 10:40:56 am »

Because it's a clothing bin, it may have been used to take clothes from the clothiers shop to the stockpile, where the locally-made clothes were snatched up by your dwarves. That's my best guess.
but why would it be mixing the bin contents like that? foreign and worn clothes shouldn't be on any kind of path to that stockpile. Are the dwarves picking up a bin with good clothes in it and going over and grabbing worn clothes from the worn pile and putting them on the good pile? Why would they do that?
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Re: Stockpile taking non-linked items
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2013, 04:10:39 pm »

they go to the 'new clothes stockpile' to grab new stuff and drop their worn clothes right there. Since it's already on the stockpile, it won't be moved out of it
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Re: Stockpile taking non-linked items
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2013, 04:35:28 pm »

but why would it be mixing the bin contents like that?

Basically because bins are fucked to hell and you should never use them. Quantum storage all the way.
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Re: Stockpile taking non-linked items
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2013, 07:17:32 pm »

they go to the 'new clothes stockpile' to grab new stuff and drop their worn clothes right there. Since it's already on the stockpile, it won't be moved out of it

Some of the clothes that I've found in "good" stockpile are large or small clothes. They're found foreign clothes. I understand the odd clothing they drop on the spot that doesn't get moved off, but they'd have no reason to drop foreign found clothing there.
The bin I found had 5 pieces of "large" foreign clothing in it.
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« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2013, 08:30:21 pm »

I've been struggling with this issue as well.

What i've settled on doing is to create a max-bin stockpile for all clothing of less than superior quality near the trade depot, and another near my clothier area some distance away underground, which is set to take usable of superior or higher (but which does NOT use bins).

When trading, I can safely dump all the contents which are within 9 tiles from the depot for trade, and then I can hand-select individual peices of clothing (any that are x or higher wear) to also be included for trade.

This way, my dwarves generally have a selection of good quality tunics, trousers and shoes, while still allowing me to offload all the garbage left over from sieges as well as worn out gear to prevent my L20 Clothier from going insane by having masterwork clothes poof from XX.

It isnt a perfect system, because some of the clothes crafted by myself are wasted, but at level 20 the clothier has no problem fitting 150 dwarves in queued batches of 30 top, legs and shoes every once in a while but it works fairly good.

edit: having the superior+ quality stockpiles without bins allows quick visuals on the stock levels. Creating a separate pile for shoe, tunic and trousers. Make each 60 tiles big and you can easily know when your in need of the next batch of 30 to be queued up.
« Last Edit: June 16, 2013, 08:33:03 pm by Eddis »
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Re: Stockpile taking non-linked items
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2013, 11:09:26 pm »

they go to the 'new clothes stockpile' to grab new stuff and drop their worn clothes right there. Since it's already on the stockpile, it won't be moved out of it

Some of the clothes that I've found in "good" stockpile are large or small clothes. They're found foreign clothes. I understand the odd clothing they drop on the spot that doesn't get moved off, but they'd have no reason to drop foreign found clothing there.
The bin I found had 5 pieces of "large" foreign clothing in it.

Its because dwarves love puting items into bins to the exclusion of all else.   What is most likely happening is this.  Bin A is in worn clothing pile and gets random junk in it.  An item is slated to go into good clothing stockpile.  There are no other bins avalible.  Dwarf sees that bin A has room in it and prioritizes puting good item into bin before takeing it to its desired stockpile.  Random crap goes along for the ride and ends up in the good stockpile.

Like a previous poster said, the only way to get around this is to disalow bins and just go with a quantum stockpile solution. (well that or a really really big stockpile with no bins)
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