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crossmr

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ghost.. but.. can't memorialize?
« on: June 08, 2013, 06:35:49 am »

I was just checking my unit list.. down to 2 forgotten beasts..but I noticed an undead..a ghost.
I checked the name, ran off to my workshop to make a slab, but can't find the name anywhere on the list. All dwarves are entombed, and no one is showing as not..
I scrolled the entire list twice and can't find the name there at all (oh why doesn't this one have a search???)
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Matoro

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Re: ghost.. but.. can't memorialize?
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2013, 06:42:49 am »

It's bug that happens sometimes. IIRC DFHack has a tool to fix it, command "tweak" or something like that.
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Re: ghost.. but.. can't memorialize?
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2013, 06:59:27 am »

that got rid of it it..sort of..it's still on the list.. but the ghost seems gone and when I center it, it centers on the corner of the map..
not sure what that means.
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Re: ghost.. but.. can't memorialize?
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2013, 09:05:21 am »

If a guard for a caravan got killed while in the embark they can leave a ghost who can't be slabbed. 

In my one fort's case he fell into a magma pit while fighting off a goblin attack - no body to recover.  Luckily he wasn't a violent haunt, so he became a sort of mascot.  And the fort's morale was generally good enough to handle the bad thoughts that arose from encountering him in the tunnels.
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Re: ghost.. but.. can't memorialize?
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2013, 11:39:20 pm »

after a short time, he disappeared from the list. So it seems okay now. It was definitely a dwarf, said he was a spear dwarf. He must have been a caravan guard. but I couldn't even find him anywhere on the dead/deceased or anything else list. Very strange.
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Re: ghost.. but.. can't memorialize?
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2013, 12:19:35 am »

It's a known bug. Caravan guards and possibly dwarven merchants, when killed, do not show up on the dead/missing list and cannot be slabbed. If you can't bury them for whatever reason, they come back as ghosts inevitably. You learn to deal with it.
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Re: ghost.. but.. can't memorialize?
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2013, 10:17:41 am »

It's bug that happens sometimes. IIRC DFHack has a tool to fix it, command "tweak" or something like that.
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tweak clear-ghostlyIt's described as "[...] works, but is potentially very dangerous".  I've never had any problems with using it.  I used it a lot in the game where rampaging zombies massacred every caravan to set foot upon the map for several years.
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Re: ghost.. but.. can't memorialize?
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2013, 11:44:39 am »

iirc hosts can eventually die of old age
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Re: ghost.. but.. can't memorialize?
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2013, 11:54:36 am »

I know from personal experience that using tweak clear-ghostly does not clear the "this tile is occupied by a creature" flag, preventing you from ever building constructions and I think buildings on that tile, and any creature that paths through it will be forced to lie down. I don't know about other weirdness, but I'm sure it exists.
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Gotta Catch 'Em All!

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