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[jez9999]

So I've done some mining into some soil/clay/rock but I mined it out the wrong shape and there's a chunk I want to fill in.  What are my options?  Is there a way to re-fill it?  If not, what's the closest alternative to re-filling?

[Raphite1]

You can build constructed walls in the gap. They'll look a bit different on the ends, but the space will be full at least.

You can also fill the empty tiles with natural obsidian by mixing magma and water there. Building the infrastructure to do this may cause worse aesthetic concerns than the empty spaces, though.

[jez9999]

Are walls as resiliant to invading enemies as the mud?  As far as I know the enemies can't break through mud; can they break through the walls though?

[Solon64]

Enemies cannot destroy constructions ever (constructions being anything built through the b->C menu, walls, stairs, fortifications, etc.) Even a wall made of soap or ash is completely immune to EVERYTHING.

Natural walls are the exact same as constructed walls in every regard EXCEPT that stone natural walls can be smoothed and then engraved. Constructed walls are already smoothed but cannot be engraved. Wish Toady would change that, actually...

[Itnetlolor]

Look into DFHack's features. Among the plugins is a means of editing areas and tiles. You can use it to change the floor into a wall again, and if you want, mark it as hidden as well.

Alternatively, you can use DFLiquids to replace it with an obsidian block.

The first suggestion is if this is mostly an aesthetic thing, though it probably won't change the fact that you can mine it out again.

[Loud Whispers]

Enemies cannot destroy constructions ever (constructions being anything built through the b->C menu, walls, stairs, fortifications, etc.) Even a wall made of soap or ash is completely immune to EVERYTHING.

Natural walls are the exact same as constructed walls in every regard EXCEPT that stone natural walls can be smoothed and then engraved. Constructed walls are already smoothed but cannot be engraved. Wish Toady would change that, actually...

They can be engraved with sufficient use of bugs, it's how engraved metal pillars are possible.

[Catsup]

They can be engraved with sufficient use of bugs, it's how engraved metal pillars are possible.

how do you use this bug which you say?

at OP i wall off the candy veins i mine out and most of the natural cavern walls i mine out just so that the cavern maintains its natural shape.

[Itnetlolor]

Funny thing, that DFHack method I mentioned earlier can also reassign the tile(s) as either constructions or natural walls/floors, which also means that you could theoretically also engrave them, one way or another.

[Catsup]

Funny thing, that DFHack method I mentioned earlier can also reassign the tile(s) as either constructions or natural walls/floors, which also means that you could theoretically also engrave them, one way or another.

that feels more exploitish than exploiting a in-game bugusing a in-game feature to do it instead though.

[Drazinononda]

I wonder if a form of this bug could also be applied to building walls? I.e. set natural floor to be engraved, then build a normally unengraveable wall over it?

[Mr S]

But I can't engrave soil.  And I want to engrave my constructed curtain wall with images of goblins screaming and elves making plaintive gestures while a dwarf makes a menacing pose!

[slothen]

But I can't engrave soil.  And I want to engrave my constructed curtain wall with images of goblins screaming and elves making plaintive gestures while a dwarf makes a menacing pose!

You can do this.  It just requires a massive infrastructure, meticulous planning, and painstaking, layer by layer obsidian casting.  But eventually the wall will mostly just have images of cheese.

[jez9999]

They can be engraved with sufficient use of bugs, it's how engraved metal pillars are possible.

how do you use this bug which you say?

at OP i wall off the candy veins i mine out and most of the natural cavern walls i mine out just so that the cavern maintains its natural shape.

But the wall will look different from the surrounding soil/clay/stone, right?

[Ruhn]

Realistically, a wall made of bricks or chunks of rough stone can't be engraved.  It could be painted if covered with gypsum plaster, but we don't have any painter-dwarves currently.