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[ospamiony]

Hi,

The bug:
There's a known bug that I'm aware of:
Dwarves that have a hero status i.e. elite marksdwarves, axelords lose their hero status on some occasions and revert to being a regular soldiers. They need to gain experience to become a hero once more, but they will lose their status over and over again.

My problem:
My elite crossbowmen gain a hero status and after a while they lose it.
The loss occurs usually after finishing a kill or station order or at the end of the month.

My schedule for crossbowmen squad is to defend a burrow(main gate) for the whole year.
Min. 4 out of 10 dwarves are required on duty all the time.

My question:
I suspect the bug is related to my schedule.
Could you please share the schedule you use for squads, if you didn't encounter this bug.

Thanks

[Akura]

Might actually be skill rust. Skills deteriorate over time if not used, so they might lose their elite status.

A whole year of not shooting anything can likely reduce below the elite threshold if the only barely attain it.

[AlmightyOne]

There's a known bug that I'm aware of:
Dwarves that have a hero status i.e. elite marksdwarves, axelords lose their hero status on some occasions and revert to being a regular soldiers

This 'some occasions' you're referring to is, whenever any lord is deactivated from duty and currently that can happen in the following ways:
1.Whenever you issue a station order,(especially happens if they have been stationed for long) and then cancel it, they revert back to their civilian ways for a short while, THUS LOSING their lord status when they revert back to train or whatever it is they have been scheduled to do.
2.If your schedule involves different orders (1st month:train,2nd month:patrol etc) once the first month gets over, again they will revert back to their civilian ways for a short time and when they go back to their orders (overhere patrolling) they lose their lord status.
3. Of course, deliberately deactivating them from active to civilian.
The mechanism of this bug is that the said dwarf's main skill(say axedwarf), when it reaches great level or higher promotes him to a lord but when this lord is deactivated due to the any of the above said reasons, He has to again get an increment in the said skill(here axedwarf, even a little amount will do), that will restore his lord status.
Currently, the only way to prevent this is to keep a squad training for the whole year round,(atleast that's what I do) and not stationing them for long since that might cause them to revert. I'm not aware of any other means of preventing this.
OR you can just ignore this bug.

[ospamiony]

"OR you can just ignore this bug. "

Yeppp.
I was afraid that's how it's going to be when i want to station archers on walls.

Thanks

[AlmightyOne]

"OR you can just ignore this bug. "

Yeppp.
I was afraid that's how it's going to be when i want to station archers on walls.

Thanks

It's not easy to ignore it considering the fact that lords are always happy whereas normal soldiers grumble about their duties. That will heavily impact your militarizes happiness.
No don't give up, I found a few ways.
Like for stationing you say, Let the squad train throughout the year so don't change their default schedule.
Since you wanted them to be positioned on a wall or something, just protect that area with fortifications and construct a armour stand over there for them to train. Simple! They will train on that area on that wall and also shoot any hostiles. That minimizes the chance that you will make them lose their lord status.(just makes sure the barracks room shape allows all the dwarfs to be adjacent to the fortifications)
I do that even for stationing, particularly for long periods of time. I just construct a wooden chest in the required area, and make them train there instead of their usual barracks, Takes longer, yes, but hey till this bug is resolved I guess we have to get used to it.
For emergency kill orders, stationing them(rather than issuing kill orders) for a short while works out. Kill orders seem to be more bugged and sometimes cause them to lose their status.

[Catsup]

i never had a problem with military happiness, even if my legendary elite marksdwarves revert to normal ones later. All of my military have the same jobs as peasants save for woodcutting or mining. So they can run most of the minor workships like ashery, furnance operating, wood burning, gem cutting, butchering, tanning, and soapmaking just to list a few. Either that or they're busy hauling/collecting sand and clay when off duty.

What i do know is, military will never complain about the draft if they have some sort of military skill that is non-dabbling. In fact my military is often happier than the peasantry because in addition to the normal happy thoughts (not sure if they can enjoy drink thoughts, since i make them carry alcohol rations) they get happy from taking joy in slaughter.

it may just be my playing style though, because i never use schedules, ever. I train my military manually on trapped forgotten beasts, thralls, and invaders using station behind the appropriate fortifications. I manually deactivate them when they get hungry and thirsty. And i micro my military to engage enemies when necessary using station.

[ospamiony]

It's not easy to ignore it considering the fact that lords are always happy whereas normal soldiers grumble about their duties. That will heavily impact your militarizes happiness.

That's fine, beeing enraged by long patrol duty takes only -10 happiness points and their happy/escatic thanks to booze, food and quality rooms.

I'll consider placing training area where the defend burrow area was for elite marksdwarves and give kill/station orders for noob marksdwarves.

Thanks once more