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KroganElite

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Marksdwarves not carrying ammo?
« on: April 21, 2013, 03:53:51 pm »

Everything was working perfectly for the first 4 years. All of a sudden they don't bring ammo with them anymore.

They are set to carry 250 bolts for squad, doesn't matter what kind and set to train/combat with them.  I also have a lot of ammo in stockpiles. The room the ammo stockpile is in is also an armory set to squad equipment. I haven't messed with their quivers, they all have it, they're just empty. I don't think it is because of any of this.

The only thing I've changed is set them to defend burrow, alternating months between 2 squads.

 Is this messing them up? Should I just revert them to be full-time inactive again(I train them on live prisoners instead)?

There's a huge goblin siege outside my fort and I will take huge casualties if I have to go outside and kill them with melee troops. Help would be greatly appreciated, thanks!

« Last Edit: April 21, 2013, 03:59:32 pm by KroganElite »
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KroganElite

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Re: Marksdwarves not carrying ammo?
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2013, 09:25:14 am »

I've tried setting them to inactive. I've tried setting them to train. I've tried giving them specific bolts. I tried making more bolts. I tried stationing them near on the ammo stockpile. NOTHING!

Does no one really have any ideas?
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Re: Marksdwarves not carrying ammo?
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2013, 10:48:04 am »

How many squads?  Are you certain all of them are out of ammo?  Some shots in the dark:

- You mentioned you're in a siege - double check that the bolt stockpile is within the burrow your marksdwarves are assigned to?  Can dwarves path to it?  Try moving the stockpile slightly, that will quickly confirm that dwarves can path to it.

- are you sure you have ammo available?  It can be deceptive if you are measuring ammo by the # in the stocks screen, because over time it gets inflated by forbidden ammo lying around after sieges, or in ditches behind your archery targets.  A stockpile full of ammo bins may also look nice and full, but check the bins to see if they are actually full?

- are the invaders within sight of your marksdwarves?  They won't reload if enemies are in sight.

- Check and possibly lower hunter ammo in the ammo screen; I think hunters 'reserve' ammo first and if this got set really high by accident its possible they're reserving too much ammo.

- try the big hammer - disband one marksman squad at a time, recreate them from scratch with no uniform, assign them the archer uniform.

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Re: Marksdwarves not carrying ammo?
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2013, 11:29:29 am »

doublepost.
« Last Edit: April 22, 2013, 11:31:31 am by KroganElite »
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Re: Marksdwarves not carrying ammo?
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2013, 11:31:15 am »

How many squads? 2 Are you certain all of them are out of ammo? One or two have some Some shots in the dark:

- You mentioned you're in a siege - double check that the bolt stockpile is within the burrow your marksdwarves are assigned to? Yup, it is.  Can dwarves path to it?Yes. Try moving the stockpile slightly, that will quickly confirm that dwarves can path to it.

- are you sure you have ammo available?I can clearly see tons of them in my stockpile, none are forbidden.  It can be deceptive if you are measuring ammo by the # in the stocks screen, because over time it gets inflated by forbidden ammo lying around after sieges, or in ditches behind your archery targets.  A stockpile full of ammo bins may also look nice and full, but check the bins to see if they are actually full? They are indeed full.

- are the invaders within sight of your marksdwarves?  They won't reload if enemies are in sight. I've tried them on the walls and behind the walls, no reload.

- Check and possibly lower hunter ammo in the ammo screen; I think hunters 'reserve' ammo first and if this got set really high by accident its possible they're reserving too much ammo. I always disable hunters.

- try the big hammer - disband one marksman squad at a time, recreate them from scratch with no uniform, assign them the archer uniform. This is the only thing that seemed to work. Never thought of that one, thanks. It is quite tedious to do this every time it bugs out though.
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Re: Marksdwarves not carrying ammo?
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2013, 12:08:59 pm »

re: hunters: even if you disable them (I assume you mean by removing the work assignment from the ind. dwarves), the ammo screen still reserves ammo for them.  What I do is go into the hunter section on the ammo screen and reduce their bolt count to something like 100.  This lets me run a couple hunters now and then, but they'll never have more than 100 bolts reserved.  The reason I ask if "some" have bolts is that it can be an indicator of an ammo reservation problem.  That doesn't sound like your issue though.

re: squad reassembling, yeah, I hear you.  Unfortunately military equipment, esp. marksdwarves, is one of the most fiddly parts of the game.  Luckily when marksdwarves bug out, it seems to be a temporary thing and I normally don't have to do it on a regular basis.  I nickname my marksdwarves by squad with tags like X1, X2, X3.  This lets me rapidly locate them in the units list if I have to break down and rebuild a squad.  Unfortunately, this takes its own micromanagment since military lose their nicknames frequently. 
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Re: Marksdwarves not carrying ammo?
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2013, 01:04:27 pm »

I didn't know about the hunter reservation ammo. I'll make sure to just assign them no ammo at all.
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Re: Marksdwarves not carrying ammo?
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2013, 06:57:03 pm »

This is starting to get really annoying...It has happened again. No one has any ammo..........................!!

edit: This is so dumb..I just dumped all my ammo and reclaimed and now they are using everything...How can you even explain that other than buggy code.

edit2: might be the bins messing it up. Doesn't make sense though.
« Last Edit: April 22, 2013, 07:05:33 pm by KroganElite »
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