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GreatWyrmGold

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Re: You are a Naga
« Reply #45 on: March 21, 2013, 09:09:43 pm »

Humans have done much, much worse IRL. Typically in times of duress, but not always. And let's not get into what individual humans do...
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Re: You are a Naga
« Reply #46 on: March 21, 2013, 09:12:15 pm »

Humans have done much, much worse IRL. Typically in times of duress, but not always. And let's not get into what individual humans do...
The point is, I can't see the justification for wiping out an entire race for things some of them do.
Apart from for the fun, of course, but that's me.
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Re: You are a Naga
« Reply #47 on: March 21, 2013, 09:54:25 pm »

Especially since the exact same thing could probably be used to justify wiping out humanity, and certainly certain populations thereof.
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Re: You are a Naga
« Reply #48 on: March 21, 2013, 09:55:59 pm »

I can't see how any part of what Gwg and Xan are saying counters what I'm saying.

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Re: You are a Naga
« Reply #49 on: March 21, 2013, 10:00:40 pm »

Let me put it this way.

Do you support genocide of the Germans?
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Re: You are a Naga
« Reply #50 on: March 21, 2013, 10:01:11 pm »

I can't see how any part of what Gwg and Xan are saying counters what I'm saying.
It's implied that it's only justifiable for the Nagas to be wiped out on basis of their Patrons raping other Nagas if I can go out and butcher every last human out there, including you, me, and the families of each.
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Re: You are a Naga
« Reply #51 on: March 21, 2013, 10:21:33 pm »

No I said it because of how MOST OF THEIR FREAKING CULTURE IS BASED ON SAID RAPE. AND HOW THE VICTIM OF SAID RAPE BEARS THE 'SHAME' OF IT.

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Re: You are a Naga
« Reply #52 on: March 21, 2013, 10:32:07 pm »

Most of their culture you know of. And consider:

1. Many human cultures felt the same way about rape.
2. Is rape worse than genocide?
3. Would you support killing all Germans? (Pretend it's 1945 for a moment.)
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Re: You are a Naga
« Reply #53 on: March 21, 2013, 10:32:36 pm »

No I said it because of how MOST OF THEIR FREAKING CULTURE IS BASED ON SAID RAPE. AND HOW THE VICTIM OF SAID RAPE BEARS THE 'SHAME' OF IT.
Again, not that different than some human cultures. Actually better than a few. But this is the world we're presented with, and more importantly we're looking at it from the perspective of a Naga. Thus, to be properly IC we can't wipe out our own species on the basis of hating our own cultural practices because those are OUR cultural practices that we don't really see anything wrong with. To do otherwise would be OOC.
And that is very bad.
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« Reply #54 on: March 21, 2013, 11:30:47 pm »

I like how, a dozen posts after the update, not one person has even mentioned it. Well, no. That's a lie. I don't like it at all and I think you all are poopyheads for going off on this tangent.

Our god, Graois, is a chaos god. So he'd probably think it was hilarious if we chose Calathes or Rawlanda. But that's not what's best for us. We need a matron who's independent enough that we don't have to babysit her (so, not 7-year-old-mentality Calathes) but not so independent that she'll go on a wild bender, pass out drunk, get captured and end up getting us killed on a rescue mission (so, not Rawlanda). But we don't need the absolute finest Maidens, since Graois is going to bless them anyways and that will make them pretty exceptional regardless of what they were like before.

So, here's my idea. Offer Steven a place as head of the College for one of his best mages if he'll let us have Mellow and Chloe instead of Calathes and Rawlanda. Don't ask him for anything else. Go to Tito for it, say that we need people for the pilgrimage and that anyone who's willing to come will have a place in the new family.
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Re: You are a Naga
« Reply #55 on: March 21, 2013, 11:54:54 pm »

Most of their culture you know of. And consider:

1. Many human cultures felt the same way about rape.
2. Is rape worse than genocide?
3. Would you support killing all Germans? (Pretend it's 1945 for a moment.)

for what purpose do you not support genocide for fun and profit

and stop invoking godwin really, really subtly.
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Re: You are a Naga
« Reply #56 on: March 22, 2013, 06:00:26 pm »

Sometimes, there's just no point dilly-dallying about with lesser evils which are lesser known.
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Re: You are a Naga
« Reply #57 on: March 22, 2013, 07:03:02 pm »

I vote for magically giving every single naga complete amnesia thus wiping out the culture without killing anyone. Maybe with a few exceptions to tell the horror stories and lead a better part, like that "hippy" one.
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Re: You are a Naga
« Reply #58 on: March 22, 2013, 07:04:34 pm »

I vote for magically giving every single naga complete amnesia thus wiping out the culture without killing anyone. Maybe with a few exceptions to tell the horror stories and lead a better part, like that "hippy" one.
I veto this before we get tortured and killed by our family for trying.
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