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Author Topic: The Hobbit Has Some Awesome Dwarf Moments  (Read 3530 times)

Wimopy

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Re: The Hobbit Has Some Awesome Dwarf Moments
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2013, 02:37:42 pm »

i really enjoyed the part in erabor where the smith heated up some metal then held it above his head as two big ass hammers swung down and hit it, that seemed the most dwarvish thing in the beginning

You know, practically the same thing happens when a dwarf lures a goblin into a weapon trap made with two warhammers. It turns the goblin into refineable goblinite!
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Re: The Hobbit Has Some Awesome Dwarf Moments
« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2013, 11:13:21 am »

Erebor was just plain epic. However, I'd be REALLY skeptical of having so many narrow walkways with so few guardrails.
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Re: The Hobbit Has Some Awesome Dwarf Moments
« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2013, 12:48:14 pm »

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I knew all of this previously, actually. Everything I said was true. Dwarf Fortress evolved from Mutant Miner, which itself didn't have anything to do with Moria. The "digging too deep and too greedily" can apply to anything, and isn't necessarily from Tolkien's works. Even if it was, it isn't quite enough to allow you to say that Mutant Miner was based on Moria. Saying that it was is like saying, "This has legs, and this has legs. Therefore, all tables were originally based on cats, as cats came first." Granted, Mutant Miner bears more similarities to Moria than cats do to tables, but it's along the same line of reasoning. It didn't draw much inspiration from Tolkien's works until it began to evolve into what it is today, drawing heavily on Toady's (then) recent project, Slaves to Armok.

You are right, of course. Mutant Miner and Dwarf Fortress are not the same game. Then again, no supporter of the Theory of Evolution in their right mind would try to tell you that we are all single-celled organisms. Dwarf Fortress would not exist if it wasn't for Mutant Miner. They bear the same basic ideas - mining with a number of people. Perhaps the original code is elsewhere, and Dwarf Fortress was created from scratch, but that doesn't mean it wasn't originally something else.

Basically, Dwarf Fortress was not originally inspired by Tolkien, as I said. It was inspired by Mutant Miner. It may be influenced (and heavily!) by Tolkien's works - particularly Moria and certain parts of the Silmarillion - but that's different.
    I won't deny The Hobbit being a 76-year old children's novel, though. Doesn't mean it isn't a good read.
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« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2013, 03:04:27 pm »

The two scenes that were filled with DF; Azog the Defiler invading the fortress and Smaug.

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Re: The Hobbit Has Some Awesome Dwarf Moments
« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2013, 07:26:24 pm »

The Prince Thorin smashes the Orc in the right forearm with his +oaken shield+, shattering the bone and bruising the muscle!
The severed part sails off in an arc!


That movie was SO dwarfy. I went home and played DF right afterward. Erebor is pretty much exactly how I imagine my dwarf dwellings. And the dwarves singing at the beginning was EPIC. It was kind of weird, them singing lyrics to a song I'd read back in my childhood, countless times. Again, a superb expression of dwarven culture.
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« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2013, 11:09:49 pm »

And the BEARDS!Bomber's beard is what a noble would probably do for his own facejacket. Maybe the sentient beard hairs were doing architecture or something.
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