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mscantrell

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Unusually shallow SMR
« on: December 11, 2012, 02:13:11 pm »

One of the first things I do on a new fortress is lean on the > until the map bottoms out. To see how deep the smelter fluid is, you know? It's pretty reliably about 5 z levels above the bottom.

And that tells me whether to build smelters and forges down there and make operators and smiths hike back and forth, or bring magma up.

Except in my current fortress, where the map depth is 160, but i hit smr at level 60.

I have next to no ore, so I'm curious- anychance of zigzagging around the undiggable parts and scoring more metals in the next 100 z's?
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Re: Unusually shallow SMR
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2012, 02:42:01 pm »

Wait, do you have candy spires going down 100z lvls?!

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Re: Unusually shallow SMR
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2012, 03:04:16 pm »

Hadn't considered that.. . Is it safe to infer that I do?  Holy moly.
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Re: Unusually shallow SMR
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2012, 03:32:16 pm »

Nice. What's the worldgen seed? Hopefully the thick SMR is found across the whole world, or at least a large chunk of the area in which you embarked.
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Re: Unusually shallow SMR
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2012, 04:24:18 pm »

If you have DFHack, you can try revealing the map to see if it's playable before you put a fort on it. No point spending time on it if it's one of those messed-up worlds with floating rock and bad data.
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Re: Unusually shallow SMR
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2012, 05:29:40 pm »

Note that even if the spire goes down 100 levels (I have seen that before) It can be hollow at any point. Batlefailed mined ONE tile
and discovered a 80z levels hollow tube to damnation.
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Re: Unusually shallow SMR
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2012, 07:32:21 pm »

Yeah, but once you deal with the fallout you have a ton of adamantine to work with.

Last time I did that was in 31.25, and the method I used wouldn't work so well now because creatures with ranged attacks will no longer politely path through a long fortification maze before unleasing any fireballs and what-have-you once they get direct line of sight to a dwarf. Also, it's not suitable for creatures that are both hard inorganic and have deadly dust or gaseous secretions.

(Bone bolts plus several dozen Elite crossbowdwarves plus a melee squad to finish off the few that made it that far. None of the types capable of surviving that withering hail were a major threat to trained melee, which is why I went for it.)
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I am trying to make chickens lay bees as eggs. So far it only produces a single "Tame Small Creature" when a hen lays bees.
Honestly at the time, I didn't see what could go wrong with crowding 80 military Dwarves into a small room with a necromancer for the purpose of making bacon.